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I don't know. Run one by me. But what I suspect is that "right" is defined by the left in your thinking and I don't accept most of those definitions as representing anything I believe.You go on in your post to put leftist spin on everything else too. I can see how it would be very difficult to recognize leftist fake news when you simply accept it all as fact.

I see I can't answer the rest of your post because I didn't hear the speech. Comments I've heard today -- not a lot of that even -- are quite positive about it, and the NYT account is even pretty positive for them.I will mention one of the biggest gripes I have about media coverage these days, the word "undocumented" for illegal aliens, and leaving off the term "illegal" from "immigrants." That's deep-dyed fake news IMO.Speaking of illegal immigration, I have nothing against developing a pathway to legality for those who deserve it. Maybe Trump didn't bring it up in the speech because he hasn't had time to think it through.

It's not that hard to figure out who deserves it, Phat, it would be anyone who has been living and working without committing any criminal offenses, or without being describable by the paragraph in Message 474. For starters anyway. Maybe other criteria should also be considered.

Trump's statement during the campaign about deporting illegal aliens who have committed criminal offenses, which is what I was talking about, is a separate thing from the "immigration ban" that put a delay on allowing Syrian refugees, or people from those seven nations, into the country.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

As I understand it, some deportations are continuing from Obama's administration that have nothing to do with Trump's plan. We haven't even heard anything about Trump's plan yet have we? All I was talking about was what he said during the campaign.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Funny then there hasn't been any report of an official plan under the Trump administration. Trump has been doing lots of executive orders since he got into office, but none about dealing with people who are here illegally that I'm aware of.

You're said absolutely nothing to show that the deportations come from Trump's administration and not from Obama's.

Just more evasion, jar. If he's issued no orders then they are not acting on his orders. Period.

We must have a rogue ICE then, acting on nobody's orders.

Great. Thank you for the information.

Yes, that sounds like a very reasonable assessment of how I got into the middle, their hateful characterizations of the right. One reason I decided not to take it again was that I was offended by their focus on race. I don't think in terms of race and I refuse to be forced to decide if my race is good or bad.Thanks.

Sure I'll apologize for not knowing he'd issued an order. But all I said was that I wasn't aware of such orders and that left Obams as the source.

I've often wondered how you ever got to be a lawyer with your logic handicap.

The insult is not spurious and no to your question. You've said enough offensive stuff to deserve tp be ignored.It was obviously not my ignorance of Trump's actions that left Obama as the source of the actions and to twist it into that is just another insult to ME that I'm rightly objecting to.

I think the whole vets story is a species of fake news, just another case of anything we can drum up for a complaint about Trump.I have no idea what's in your blinding white boxes. Should I care?Edited by Faith, : No reason given.