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nator
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Message 28 of 151 (454156)
02-05-2008 6:26 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by pelican
02-05-2008 2:13 AM


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Did Jesus truly die for our sins? It seems we are to be eternally grateful and yet the world is full of sin. Does this make sense?
I thought that the whole point of Christianity was that Jesus died so that our sins would be forgiven, not so that there would be no more sinning.
That is the central theme of the entire religion, I thought.

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nator
Member (Idle past 2200 days)
Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
Joined: 12-09-2001


Message 46 of 151 (454279)
02-06-2008 8:58 AM
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02-06-2008 3:33 AM


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What would be the point in Jesus dying to have our sins forgiven when we keep on sinning? Surely Jesus teachings and examples are for the benefit of humanity here on earth?
Well, I would agree that the teachings of Jesus, even if he was a purely fictional construct, are as good as most any others'. "Be good to one another, take care of the poor, etc."
Mostly, I think the benefit is felt mostly by those who believe they are "saved" or "born again", becasue they can believe themselves special and part of an elite group that will enjoy bliss in heaven rather than eternal torment in hell.

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