Omniscience, Omnipotence, the Fall & Logical Contradictions.

Although I agree at your angle from your point of view, I can and will also disagree with it. God can choose to simply not "look" into the future at any given time. A being of absolute authority can do anything. Even nerf Hmself for a project. I asked this very same question to a guy that was pretty heavy into scholarship. He told me something similar to what I just typed. The only way to give "true" free will to humans was to make them and not "peer" into the future and know all the events that would take place. It is very possible to not allow yourself to do anything you choose not to do. Maybe that's how it was done.I wasn't there at the time. Sorry.Edited by xXGEARXx, : Crap... I forgot how to quote already, lol...Edited by xXGEARXx, : No reason given.Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Fixed quote code. See "peek".

That makes zero sense. He can SEE without LOOKING. Then what word would you use? Peer?, View?, Feel?, Observe?, Peek-a-Boo?, Gaze?, ???I don't fully grasp the concept to begin with. Do you?For all you believers out there. Help me understand this one. Why is it the Bible was "divinely inspired" by God to mankind, but if a guy claims that God is talking to him now-a-days, he is considered schizophrenic? Little scary isn't it. As much as I hate to say it, my faith is beginning to feel a little shaken up. I guess I am just flat confused. I used to believe it and defend it to the bitter end, but now it doesn't seem to sit with me the same way. Sucks don't it?Edited by xXGEARXx, : No reason given.Edited by xXGEARXx, : No reason given.

Wait a minute.. If an omniscient being prevents himself from "seeing" something, that automatically means he isn't? I can't buy that one. A being that powerful can or could potentially do whatever he wanted to do. I think you were just trying to make your point, and I can appreciate that. I just don't understand how you can say-if this, then that-without really understanding it in the first place. In other words, why should it NOT be possible? It absolutely should. Just because I can not fully understand or grasp the concept, doesn't mean it doesn't exist either.As far as the "seeing" thing. It is indescribable. How could one describe something that has yet to be understood in the first place? It is nice to even be able to discuss such things, right? Take my mind for instance. How can I descibe my thoughts? I "see" images in my head? lol.. I mean, how else do you say it? I can remember different events in life many years ago. I can "see" the images and even remember what I felt like, without really feeling it at all. Pretty amazing. I am sure there is a neat handy dandy scientific appraoch to how it all works, but that is also something we can STUDY. I tell ya, real nice work goes into all this from being created from non intelligence, as some would believe. Edited by xXGEARXx, : No reason given.Edited by xXGEARXx, : No reason given.

So, if I do not believe in God it is ok to say I have indeed freewill? If I do believe in God then I do not have freewill because my whole life is predestined?So the only way I have freewill, according to you, is for God to not be omniscient or for Him to simply not exist?I can do whatever I want if God is real or not. If He knows everything I am going to do, then good for Him. The point is, I control my life. I make the choices in it, even if He knows what they are.If indeed, as you say, I don't have freewill- then this is the best joke God has played yet. Or the nothingness. Either way, Thanks guys! It sure does seem like I have freewill out the ass! Edited by xXGEARXx, : I choose not to tell. lol...or did I?