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arachnophilia
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Message 106 of 130 (224074)
07-16-2005 10:38 AM
Reply to: Message 103 by Jor-el
07-15-2005 8:11 PM


Re: Swaggart and Hinn
It is interesting that the translations vary in wording and and meaning, it clearly shows that there is no real consensus in the translation of these verses.
well, no, there's not. the grammar of original should indicate a few things, but it's hard to tell. they didn't mark the ends of sentances and such. mine puts that second part in the middle of the sentance:
quote:
Genesis 1:1-3, JPS
When God began to create heaven and earth -- the earth being unformed and void, with darkness over the surface of the deep adn a wind from God sweeping over the water -- God said "Let there be light"; and there was light.
i think it makes much more sense that way. and it's closer to recent translations of the earliest hebrew versions we have, so...

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arachnophilia
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Message 108 of 130 (224083)
07-16-2005 11:54 AM
Reply to: Message 107 by ringo
07-16-2005 11:42 AM


I think you underestimate the majority of Christians.
no.
no, he's pretty much spot on.

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arachnophilia
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Message 110 of 130 (224092)
07-16-2005 12:31 PM
Reply to: Message 109 by ringo
07-16-2005 12:24 PM


i'm all about accuracy. you take the high road all you like, i'll stick to the route on the map.

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arachnophilia
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Message 125 of 130 (224186)
07-17-2005 8:15 AM
Reply to: Message 113 by ringo
07-16-2005 2:22 PM


Notice arachnophilia's quote in Message 106:
quote:
Genesis 1:1-3, JPS
When God began to create heaven and earth -- the earth being unformed and void, with darkness over the surface of the deep adn a wind from God sweeping over the water -- God said "Let there be light"; and there was light.
No indication there that the sun was "already" created.
um, yeah, i thought the text was pretty self-explanatory. the sun is created on day 4, along with the moon. both are placed in the heaven, which was made on day two.
the jps renders it that way because it makes the most grammatic and logical sense. that section (day one) does not include the creation of heaven, or of earth (days 2 and 3). there is no gap described in the text -- this is a later reading designed to work out conflicts between belief and science. the text describes seven literal days, and nothing before it.
putting something before it kind of defeats the whole purpose. genesis is describing origins, and here is the origin of heaven and earth. genesis starts, well, in the beginning. there can be nothing before that.

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Message 126 of 130 (224187)
07-17-2005 8:17 AM
Reply to: Message 121 by AdminAsgara
07-16-2005 9:27 PM


Re: Science Fora
This discussion of the Gap theory needs to revolve around objective evidence and NOT subjective beliefs.
that the gap theory does not fit the bible -- the primary thing it is designed around -- is objective. the theory is a way of reconciling the bible and science. if it does not fit either end of it, the "theory" is flawed.

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