WHAT GOD THINKS OF FUNDAMENTALISM

WT, could you agree with me that the word fundamentalist is derived from the word fundamental?

WT, the answer to my simple question to you, of course is yes so I understand why you refuse to answer. To give the correct answer shoots your ideological airplane outa the sky. Perhaps someone else would care to address my question for you, either pro or con since you are avoiding it.

WT, be honest. You ARE refusing to answer my question. Are you admitting that answering my question correctly would nessitate a concession on your part? If not, why then don't you answer my question?I'll restate my question to make it simple. True or False? The word fundamentalist is derived from the word fundamental.

No Jar. That's not the way it works with the supreme god, Jehovah. You pick up his book, the Bible and let him talk to you, instruct you and direct you. Then you begin to, I say begin to become wise and knowledgeable about things like origins, how to function well in the here and now and what will be in the future.

Before I respond to the above complement, WT, which is it. Is it respect and admiration for this Biblical fundamentalist, 58 years into Biblical fundamentalism, or is this Biblical fundamentalist the "God damned"...... "mother fucker" as the other side of your forked tongue implicates him to be??I'll await your response to this much before proceeding.

Paul, in this statement was speaking concerning the Biblical fundamentals, those fundamentals taught in the NT concerning the gospel. One who believes in those literal Biblical fundamentals is by definitation a Biblical fundamentalist. Yet you and your friend Scott implicate any fundamentalist as "God damned".....mother fuckers." I have been in this town for over a year now, describing myself as a Biblical fundamentalist. So I repeat my question before responding to the damnation curse and terrible and hateful insult you are attempting to put upon me and my dear, dear godly deceased mother who also was a long time Biblical fundamentalist."WT, which is it. Is it respect and admiration for this Biblical fundamentalist, 58 years into Biblical fundamentalism, or is this Biblical fundamentalist the "God damned"...... "mother fucker" as the other side of your forked tongue implicates him to be??"This message has been edited by buzsaw, 06-14-2004 11:30 PM

Oh, so now you're letting my good mother off the hook, implicating that I raped her?? Thanks, but no thanks. How so am I hiding behind my good mother? You and Scott are implicating all Biblical fundamentalist's of modern times to be "God damned......mother fuckers" are you not?This message has been edited by buzsaw, 06-15-2004 12:33 AM

WT, hittin hay, but in the meantime, until I get an apology or retraction of some of your vindictive un-Biblical and highly un-Christian inflamitory statements the way I deal with curses is to rebuke them in the name of Jesus and I rebuke your curse of excommunication from Jesus and his church in the Name of that same Jesus, my Lord and Saviour and by the words of the apostle who said someplace in the NT, "Neither life nor death, nor angels nor principalities nor powers nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other creature shall be able to separate you from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus." (Going by memory [KJV] so not sure of exact quote, but close.)Btw, do you happen to be into what other Protestants would call Mormonism?This message has been edited by buzsaw, 06-15-2004 10:03 AM

PD, take a breather from the thread a moment and place a piece of paper over your avitar cat's chin or simply scroll up so as to cover everything from there up. It appears then that you have a person looking in, doesn't it? This message has been edited by buzsaw, 06-15-2004 11:02 PM

Hogwash!
1. Where does it address bedding one's mother?
2. How can you possibly know what all of us Biblical fundamentalists believe about keeping the law for salvation and how can you judge all fundies in one fell swoop as you and your nutty friend are doing?
3. I'll tell you one NT commandment that Jesus and said you better well keep if you don't want God's heavy hand down on you, WT. Matthew 7:1,2 Jesus said, "Judge not that you be not judged. For with what judgement you judge you shall be judged. And with what measure you mete, it shall be measured again." Now, you've judged me to be excommunicated from Christ and his church as if you were God almighty himself. Please show me what Biblical reference gives the likes of you power to judge and attempt to curse me by excommunicating me from Jesus and to excommunicate me from his church. You do not own the keys of Heaven and Hell, WT and some day God's gona get you for this devil duty you're doing accusing and condemning God's children. That's the devil's job. Let him handle it himself. He's doing quite a thourough job of it without your and your buddy Scott's help and whoever else, likely fellow Mormons as I believe they're the only ones who think they can practice this nonsense. I see you never answered my question as to whether you're what we would consider to be a Mormon. Are you ashamed to answer that or what?

More hogwash! Your OP implicates ALL male fundamentalists and their mothers and/or mothers of male fundamentalists that includes ALL Biblical fundamentalists. Revise your OP and stop calling me and the rest of us fundies "God damned......mother fuckers." Either you substantiate that hateful inflamitory statement which is BLATATANTLY AGAINST FORUM RULES or APOLOGIZE AND EDIT THE DAMDIBLE LIE OUT, and get over this evasive bable about buz being incoherant!<This message has been edited by buzsaw, 06-16-2004 10:12 PM

Very well put, whatever.

This Mr Forum Fundie (buz) has been in scores of churches and Biblical fundamentalist Christian circles coast to coast in many states for 59 years now and have not been in one church or meeting that preached being saved by doing works of the law.WT, how old are you and how many Biblical fundamentalist churches and meetings have you been in so as to know what is being preached? They all preach salvation by faith in Jesus Christ and the receiving of him to reach Heaven and to get eternal life. They all teach that one becomes a new spiritual minded person by this "new birth" experience and that varying degrees of good works follow this experience, depending on the commitment of the person/believer. They all believe that one grows through the reading and nurturing of God's word, the Bible. Most teach that one does not loose that salvation by sin, but that as children of God there often comes the chastening/correcting of a loving Father who like our earthly fathers and mothers chasten/correct our children for their own good. WT, this is not bondslavement to the works of the law.WT, your whole hateful premise here is a meanspirited FORUM RULE BREAKING, malicious, damning, evil, blatantly false, inflamitory, obscene, damnable lie aimed at not only the good people who believe and follow the fundamentals of the Bible, but aimed also at the mothers in a vicious profane manner. IMO, if you name the name of Christ for yourself and if you have any concience of decency about yourself, you need to appologize, edit out the profanity aimed at all fundamentalists, including Christian, and our mothers and stop setting yourself up as almighty judge thinking puny little you can excommunicate anyone from Christ and his church or danm a fellow believer to hell!

WT, you continue your lies. I plainly stated that none of these churches I've been in "insist that keeping law maintains your salvation." The NT plainly and repeatedly teaches that Christianity and the new spiritual birth via the Holy Spirit makes a better person and it lists the fruit of the Spirit which changes that person for the better. As I also said, some have a greater change than others. The apostle Paul said, "If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature. Old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." None of this is to maintain salvation. It is the result of salvation. If you show little change after salvation with few good works, you have less rewards when the awards are haned out by judge Jesus. Now, I suppose you're going to get right at changing your OP to "some fundamentalist; not all" require works to keep saved and I suppose you're going to edit that you're not going to send all fundamentalists to hell and that not all fundies bed their mothers. Another lie: Where did I use the word "proof?" Who has to prove anything by works. The fact is that the Holy Spirit effects an undeterminate amount of good works and fruit in born again Christians. God and his son Jesus will be the judge as to who is genuinely saved and born again. Neither you, I nor anyone else has that power, nor do you, who thinks of yourself as so high and mighty have the right as a Christian to excommunicate or damn and insult anyone nor anyone's mother. This is what we Biblical fundamentalists teach and believe. You had better get it right before maligning us the way you do. Another blatant lie. Most Biblical fundamentalists instruct Christians to maintain good works as the apostles have done over and over in the NT. They teach this to make them better Christians and children of God, not to maintain salvation. That is by faith and we all keep on keeping on teaching living by faith and continuing to grow via the word.Btw, when are you going to quote chapter and verse which teaches Biblical fundamentals cause males who believe and follow those fundamentals to bed their mothers and vise versa? Hmmm?I feel sorry for you, man. You have a very arrogant and anti-Christian hatred for fellow Christians who your think you can damn to hell and insult. That's sick!!Another commandment of Jesus you should ponder: He said, "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another. By this shall all men know that you are my desciples." Please understand, WT, I'm not quoting this so as to keep you saved. I'm quoting it so as for you to become a better Christian and get over this bad and condescending attitude of yours towards the rest of us, some of us who teach and follow the Biblical fundamentals, known as Biblical fundamentalists.

Well thanks, Tex. (Tex easier to remember than the #.) Hope you don't mind. I dono what John Lennon's philosophy about love was and which of the levels of love he most exercised in life, the eros/erotic/physical, the phileo/friendly/responsive, or the agape/need nothing in return/sacricial kind or maybe some of each??
I never followed the Beatles atol.Btw those Spirit fruit I mentioned to WT includes other goodies along with love, love being the first amd greatest. There is also listed in Galations 5:22,23 Joy, peace, gentleness, kindness, longsuffering, goodness, faith, meekness and temperance. This message has been edited by buzsaw, 06-17-2004 11:34 PM