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randman 
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Message 204 of 378 (218398)
06-21-2005 11:51 AM
Reply to: Message 202 by ramoss
06-21-2005 9:24 AM


Re: the dubious "evidence" for Jesus
Couple of points.
1. The primary evidence for Johannine authorship is external. For example, his authorship was widely accepted early on, and there were people inthe 2nd century that knew John and said he wrote the gospel, which is why it was accepted.
2. The fact that at some point some of Jesus' followers, the guy claiming to have been healed by Jesus for example, were put out of the synagogues in no way contradicts anything in the other gospels. That is a very weak point, and shows the weakness in the arguments against Johannine authorship.

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Message 208 of 378 (218775)
06-22-2005 6:55 PM
Reply to: Message 207 by Jabez1000
06-22-2005 6:41 PM


Re: The Evidence For Jesus
That's some awesome evidence validating the gospel of John and he fact of Jesus' life.
It's interesting because it appears on this thread we have folks that argue that Josephus is accurate despite a number of glaring mistakes, admitted by all scholars, and then discount John which exhibits such a tremendous level of cooroborating evidence.
Thanks.

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Message 210 of 378 (218874)
06-23-2005 2:10 AM
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06-22-2005 8:11 PM


Re: The Evidence For Jesus
Why "secular"?
You think an Israeli is prone to exagerrate belief in claims of Jesus raising people from the dead?

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Message 233 of 378 (221065)
07-01-2005 2:28 AM
Reply to: Message 229 by d_yankee
06-30-2005 10:43 PM


Re: Preaching, not evidence
Thank you for the support with those words.

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