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Yaro Member (Idle past 6526 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
This thread is intended to be a continuation of the Sex Ed. talk going on in the Katrina Thread.
http://EvC Forum: Help Lizard Breath Save Bush from Hurricane Katrina -->EvC Forum: Help Lizard Breath Save Bush from Hurricane Katrina This message has been edited by Yaro, 09-08-2005 01:16 PM
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Yaro Member (Idle past 6526 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
I agree 100%
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Yaro Member (Idle past 6526 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
Where I draw the line is that schools should not teach my kids about condemns and promote sexual activity. How is teaching kids about safe sex promoting sexual activity? The idea is to educatre children about the proper attitudes toward sex. Abstinance can be included among these, but it should not be stressed as the only option. Personaly, I see no problem with "pre-marital" sex as long as the person is responsible, respectfull, and practices safe sex. It's a question of attitude and education.
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Yaro Member (Idle past 6526 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
Is the sex outside of marriage bad? No. Are the results of that sex bad? Yes. Premiscuous sex leads to pregnancy, STDs, and negative emotional issues IE guilt, anger etc. Sex within marriage just leads to pregnancy. Yes, there are emotional issues, but they aren't the same. Did you see what you just did, you interchanged two things that aren't necisseraly equal. Not all pre-marital sex is "Premiscuous" sex. No one is advocating Premiscuous, irresponsible, sex. So, as long as Sex Ed. promotes safe sex, discurages Premiscuous sex, and teaches kids proper attitudes of respect and mutual concent, is there an issue? This message has been edited by Yaro, 09-08-2005 01:45 PM
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Yaro Member (Idle past 6526 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
Let's set the record straight. No one here is promoting the teaching of Promiscuous sex.
pro·mis·cu·ous (pr-msky-s) adj. 1. Having casual sexual relations frequently with different partners; indiscriminate in the choice of sexual partners. 2. Lacking standards of selection; indiscriminate. 3. Casual; random. We are talking about sex education that teaches proper attitudes tword sex, and does not promote abstinance as the ONLY option. Although, abstinance as AN option, should of cource, be taught. Agreed? This message has been edited by Yaro, 09-08-2005 01:52 PM
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Yaro Member (Idle past 6526 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
You missed it. Read back to message 9 on this thread. I posted a note of clarification.
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Yaro Member (Idle past 6526 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
I think Rhavin may have misread you as saying it was imoral. Being moraly wrong.
Not, amoral meaning moraly neutral.
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Yaro Member (Idle past 6526 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
Holms, I agree with most of your post, but I don't understand why you would think Promiscuous sex is a healthy thing. As I posted before:
pro·mis·cu·ous (pr-msky-s) adj. 1. Having casual sexual relations frequently with different partners; indiscriminate in the choice of sexual partners. 2. Lacking standards of selection; indiscriminate. 3. Casual; random. The definition itself embodies a certain level of irresponsibility. Is there a better word we could be using?
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Yaro Member (Idle past 6526 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
how you figure?
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Yaro Member (Idle past 6526 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
LOLOLLOL
I dunno why, but your post really made me laugh
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Yaro Member (Idle past 6526 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
When I think of the word 'promiscuous', it makes me think orgys, anonymous sex, etc. It makes me think unsafe sex. I don't want that promoted.
Maybe it's really a conflict of terms. To me, 'promiscuous' sounds negative. I think if Sex Ed. Is gonna prommote any kind of sex at all, it should encurage kids to be respectfull of the act, their bodies, and their partners. I hate the idea of someone teaching kids that sex is somehow scary/wrong/imoral but I also wouldn't want someone teaching that you should go out and screw everything that moves. Not that I think anyone is, but that's what the word 'promiscuous' sounds like to me). This message has been edited by Yaro, 09-09-2005 08:57 AM
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Yaro Member (Idle past 6526 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
Of course promiscuous sounds negative. That is how it has been protrayed for ages, well when combined with sex. Sex itself sounds negative to most people. Well, as I said before, perhapse it's a conflict of definitions. After all, the definition of promiscuous includes an aire of irresponsebility.
Look at what you just wrote. You discuss respect for "the act" and "their bodies" and "their partners", yet seem to feel that that has some connection to the number of partners they have and how well they know them. No I don't. I said it generaly, I don't think teachers should be promoting any particular sex lifestyle. I have no problem with people who have multiple partners, and as long as the sex is consensual and respectfull between parties, I see no problem. I think teachers, if anything, should promote respect. Not using/abusing people. And I am not implying anything by this statement other than some people are assholes and don't know how to handle a relationship, even a non-serious relationship.
You don't want sex to be viewed negatively, yet you want it to be negative enough on what you feel uncomfortable with. That's incorrect. I said nothing of the sort. I said 'promiscuous' has negative connotations and perhapse a better word is in order. Perhapse the connotation is purely cultural in nature, none the less, it still portrays a negative image.
Well that's just what the far right want as well. Nothing that says what they don't want, and blasts what they don't want. That's not what I am advocating. It's up to the kids to figure out how to express their sexuality, the teachers should instill in them a sense of respect and responsability.
The ONLY THING that sex ed should be promoting is safe sex. That is a particular set of facts regarding how to retain sexual health no matter if you are a right wing monogamous bible-thumper, or a rampant horndog. Perhapse you are correct. Though I have seen many people who just don't know how to treat their partners.
There is no such thing as someone teaching any class of kids what "right" sex is. That is for parents to try and impart, and children to explore for themselves. Perhapse you are correct. I am not advocating "right" sex (if there even is such a thing), I am advocating the teaching of respect when it comes to sex.
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Yaro Member (Idle past 6526 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
Teaching should be neutral with respect to how many partners or which. I agree. But as I told holms, I don't think Sex Ed. should advocate any particular "lifestyle". But I do think it should encurage proper attitudes about sex. i.e. Respect
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Yaro Member (Idle past 6526 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
But what does this have to do with orgies and promiscuity? Schools shouldn't be advocating them, or any other, sexual lifestyle. However I feel they should foster a healthy attitude tword the act (however one chooses to express it). As far as 'promiscuity', I think the word has a negative connotation. Weather it deserves the connotation or not, I don't know, but it has it. As such, perhapse a better word is in order. This message has been edited by Yaro, 09-09-2005 09:46 AM
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Yaro Member (Idle past 6526 days) Posts: 1797 Joined: |
I am all for that, but I just do not see how that can be done in a consistent way that is acceptable to everyone, accept a basic idea that one should not violate the rights of others and try to be honest and understanding of the desires of others. You naild it. That's what I'm talking about.
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