Sex Education

I think all people have erotic pleasures as well. For nudists, I'm sure being clothed and hidden is erotic. Hence how puritain behavior and dress can be extremely erotic to some people. They've got used to nudity.Eroticism doesn't disappear. It's always there.So don't worry about not looking at boobs, RR. There'll always be ways to get turned on. Like... covering them back up. HOTTT!!

Would it be "kosher" to start a thread SPECIFICALLY about what wild stuff holmes does? By "kosher" I'm CERTANILY not referring to the contents of the thread; I really hope they are NOT kosher. I mean more like... are we gonna actually get any good details before things get shut down?I'm really curious as to what's going over there in the nether-regions.. er.. Netherlands.Ben

Hey schraf, I didn't get this feeling at all from what holmes was saying. I would say that, in this case, they're the same thing.It's possible to have differences in taste without preconceptions and hangups, but it would mean actually examining and considering the alternatives critically, confronting our own cultural biases, and working through it. It's holmes' assumption that most people don't do that. I think that's a fair assumption.I mean, I once asked my girlfriend to "work through her biases" with me once (maybe using slightly different words), and all I got was a slap (and not a nice one on the ass, but a harsh one on the head). As I tried to motivate above, they're not the same thing, at least on an individual level. I doubt "culture" wouldn't work as a whole without preconceptions and hangups, but, on the individual level, it's not the same. You can participate in a culture and still confront the hangups and preconceptions. If you go live in a foreign country, you're forced to do it. It's hard. It also feels kind of liberating.Kind of. Mostly, it's just hard I think that's really unfairly harsh. I think you're the one reading into the words "preconception" and "hangup" as being negative. I don't think it's necessary to read what holmes wrote in that way at all.We all have preconceptions and hangups. If you work within them, you get certain results. If you work through them and outside of them, you get other results. Thus are the facts of life. There's no judgement in making the statement. Honestly I think in such cases the judgement is a reflection of the character of the reader.In a sense, it's like really great art. Well, only in that sense.What do you think?