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Message 140 of 301 (299087)
03-28-2006 6:29 PM
Reply to: Message 137 by riVeRraT
03-28-2006 6:13 PM


they won't get pregnant, but they will get a head injury and possibly die. it's inherently risky behavior. why would you do that to your children?

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Message 141 of 301 (299090)
03-28-2006 6:31 PM
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03-28-2006 6:14 PM


Re: Content, not looks or probable politics!
I do not have an unhealthy attitude towards sex, that is your subjective opinion.
i think you do have an unhealthy attitude towards sex. you have this crazy idea that it affects people in different legal situations differently. is a woman who gets married and then ditched by a worthless husband any less badly off than a woman who has sex with a boyfriend who also later ditches her? no. sex and marriage do not change anything. it's people who deal dishonestly with each other.

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Message 144 of 301 (299157)
03-28-2006 11:24 PM
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03-28-2006 6:40 PM


the best part is that he was too thick to get my use of the term UNDUE BURDEN as a statement of legality.

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Message 154 of 301 (299262)
03-29-2006 8:07 AM
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03-29-2006 12:40 AM


Re: Content, not looks or probable politics!
because i used to be a fundie.

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Message 155 of 301 (299264)
03-29-2006 8:16 AM
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03-29-2006 12:27 AM


So I make them where a helmet, so that won't happen. Cause if they hurt there head, they could not just go and get an abortion and make it all better.
If we treated the process that causes humans to exist, yourself included with half the respect of my child wearing a helmet, then people would stop having sex, unless they were married, otherwise cut your nuts, or tie your tubes.
BTW, abortion is a risky medical procedure also, but that one is ok, because it's not as bad.
Give me a break.
when i have sex, i wear a helmet. i am on the pill and we always use condoms. i only have sex with one person and i have been tested and he... didn't need to be lol. if something crazy happens and i feel off the next day, i'll go get plan b. if that doesn't work, thank constitution, i have other options. it's none of anyone's business if i'm having sex and it's no one's business except my doctor if i have an abortion.
you can still hurt your head while wearing a helmet. and that's what doctors are for. but most anti-choice people are against helmets. they don't want sex-ed in schools, they don't want condoms available, they're trying to outlaw birth control and are trying to get insurance companies to stop covering it. they've gotten some pharmacists to stop selling it. it's criminal. what about married women who don't want to have babies but don't want to throw themselves into menopause?
it's not about sex, it's not about marriage, it's about women being free from men ruling their lives. and you crazy people don't want us to have an ounce.
*edit* cray to crazy in the last line
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Message 156 of 301 (299265)
03-29-2006 8:17 AM
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03-29-2006 12:23 AM


Re: what's the difference between a pile of dead babies and a ferarri?
yes well. i like fucking so i'm not going to. instead, i'm going to do what's right and try to keep you and the other crazies out of my medical records.

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Message 158 of 301 (299355)
03-29-2006 1:10 PM
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03-29-2006 9:51 AM



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Message 163 of 301 (299372)
03-29-2006 2:08 PM
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03-29-2006 1:47 PM


there is no life until it can survive on it's own.

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Message 164 of 301 (299373)
03-29-2006 2:11 PM
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03-29-2006 1:48 PM


Re: what's the difference between a pile of dead babies and a ferarri?
yes. the risk is mine. and i take it. but congress needs to butt out.

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Message 168 of 301 (299555)
03-30-2006 8:33 AM
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03-30-2006 8:26 AM


there is no life until it can survive on its own.
even the bible makes a big deal about drawing breath.

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Message 178 of 301 (299607)
03-30-2006 2:46 PM
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03-30-2006 2:35 PM


there is absolutely no evidence that monogamy is best. lots of people around the world practice both polyandry and polygyny. there is no evidence that this has a negative effect on their cultures. there are men in cultures that still have bride-prices who will share a wife with a brother or close friend until they can each afford their own. having a wife in their culture enables them to have someone to assist them by feeding them while they work. this improves their output and their income. this is beneficial to them in spite of not being able to afford separate wives. in cultures that practice polygyny, there is often a high pregnancy mortality rate. so it is easier for a man to have enough children if he has many wives. these tend to be sheephearding peoples who need lots of people to watch the flocks. further, in these cultures, there is less feeling of ownership of the spouse and so jealousy isn't a problem. monogamy leads to jealousy which is very destructive.

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Message 179 of 301 (299608)
03-30-2006 2:49 PM
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03-30-2006 2:31 PM


Re: But you still haven't answered
What punishment? We didn't do anything wrong.
that's all i'm saying. so if you didn't do anything wrong, stop telling the rest of us that we are.
so the real problem is intercourse then. isn't it?
no, because then you shouldn't be having non-procreative sex with your wife. and that's just silly. just the same for me and the boyfriend i love. it may end up being a temporary 'marriage'. but i am faithful and that's what matters. there's no paperwork and i don't wanna squirt out a brat. but no different than you.
I am not sure God would approve of it, but I did it before I really believed in God, and I hope He will understand if I am wrong.
the only thing that might support that is that weird verse about god killing the guy who pulled out. and that was because he sinned against his brother by not providing his brother an heir. not because he used the rhythm method.
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Message 181 of 301 (299614)
03-30-2006 3:11 PM
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03-30-2006 3:05 PM


Re: But you still haven't answered
well. his brother was dead. it's called a kinsman redeemer. his job is to care for and provide a child to his relative's widow. it was to ensure that she would be cared for and not have to turn to unsavory crafts.
it's a nice sentiment but i'm not sure it would work in our monogamous culture. imagine if you had to take on your brother's three wives in addition to your own.

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Message 186 of 301 (299637)
03-30-2006 5:32 PM
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03-30-2006 4:10 PM


that's uncalled for.

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Message 187 of 301 (299639)
03-30-2006 5:36 PM
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03-30-2006 3:26 PM


Re: But you still haven't answered
Best wishes to you and the lucky guy, by the way. Sounds to me like you're on the right track
i'm not so sure. i was more referring to this in simile. but the muslims do have a "marriage for like" in sharia law. women are permitted to marry a man they are interested in and request a divorce within the year. cause you know. they're so very restrictive. i love taking classes from actual muslims who know what they're talking about.

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