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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
You're still wrong. Physically, there's no such thing as will. Will to survive does not mean what you turned it into (garbage).Many things that do not have a conscience can be described as having a "will to survive". Will, in the saying "will to survive" does not mean "will" of the conscience. So you took the saying out of context twice now. Does bacteria have a will?
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
So is a fetus. No it's not. Otherwise it would have the same name. Isn't this retarded?
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
There's no context where your statement was remotely correct, RR. Let it go. If you prove me wrong, then I WILL.
No, they don't. Neither a will to survive, nor any other will. No more than water has a "will to run downhill." If one kind of bacteria attack another kind, would one survive?
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Does water have a will because it always moves to the lowest avaliable place? Water doesn't live, unless your talking about the living waters of God. Now your comparing water to life? Water WILL never grow into anything other than water, and if you leave it alone, it WILL seek it's own level.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
The problem with your baseless accusations of "taking things out of context" is that your posts rarely have any context that would shed light on their meaning. I would reccommend you attempt to write and reason with a greater emphasis on clarity. Now your attacking the person, not the subject. (admin?) You have yet to prove me wrong here, only interject your opinion.My posts make perfect sense. It's not my fault if you do not understand them.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
we took that risk instead of laying our eggs and leaving them. You made a conscience decision to not lay your eggs? OMG. This is getting worse and worse. Can't you guys see how ridiculus you guys are getting to prove a point? All this stupidity, and it is stupidity, is only re-enforcing my opinion about abortion.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Please explain how you took that risk.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
we don't have the choice to lay eggs anymore. and for you to think i meant that you'd have to be pretty stupid. You said we took a risk, and decided not to lay eggs anymore, please explain how you took that risk.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
She used "we" in the collective sense. In the sentence "we" is refferring to the human species not her specifically. What she meant, and what she said are 2 completely different things.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
If one kind of bacteria attack another kind, would one survive? I have literally no idea what you're getting at, or how this constitutes support for your position. Like I said, try writing with a greater emphasis on being clear. Is it possible, that if one kind of bacteria, attacked another kind, would one of them survive?
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
i'm not responding to you anymore until you pull your head out of your butt. Your unbelievable.
this thread has gotten so ridiculous and you keep asking the most bizarre questions Such as?
and now you want me to defend some hair-brained idea that you have that i said i chose not to lay eggs? If your incapable of expressing your self cleary to the point where at least the idea you can make some sense, then that is what you'll get. NOn of us chose to keep our eggs inside, it's just the way things are. The same way when you get "popped" there is a chance that a new life WILL begin. It's just the way things are.
you've refused again and again to acknowledge the only sane statement on this thread (amazingly enough, mine) about abortion legislation being an infringement on the patient-doctor relationship and an inherently sexist statement about how women can't be trusted with their own medical choices Just another selfish view point.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
I honestly don't know holmes.
How can we make illegal now, that it has been legal for so long? What could the punishment possibly be? I never said the suffering I went through was enough or not. I said wasn't it enough, meaning I don't know. If it was illegal, and I went to jail for it, I could understand that now. Anything that would have prevented me from doing it, would have been a step in the right direction.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
I am talking about making an "honest mistake" while driving. I have never heard of someone being convicted of a honest mistake and doing time for it. When your drunk, your then liable. Just like when you have sex, your liable, thats my point.
So does this mean that you wish to force, by rule of law, all pregnant girls and women to carry their pregnancies to term? YOu have worded that incorrectly, and your not understanding what I am saying. By rule of law, I wish make all people who have intercourse liable for their actions. It is really not all that outlandish, it is life. Your saying it's ok to play games with life, just so you can get "popped", and have a good night out or something.
Does this mean that you wish the government and law enforcement agancies to apply themselves to surveillance and prosecution of girls and women who seek or get abortions? I haven't though about it that deeply. What was done in the past?
And you never have answered holmes; why aren't you describing how you think you should be punished for deciding with your girlfriend to terminate her pregnancy? I did answer him.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
After all, if the purpose of sending people to jail is to deter people from doing this in the future, what would be a better deterrent than making an example of RiverRat right now? I deserve it, in my own opinion. I would spend time in jail gladly to set an example. I am a person of integrety, and principal. But your little scenerio shows that you completely missed it. I did what I did, because I lived in a society that accepted abortions, which helped me make the decision I made. I was uneducated about it. There was no actual way for me to know how I would feel until I did it. And because abortion was legal, it just helped me along in doing it, instead of detering me. So I did nothing wrong, and I deserve no punishment. If you wish to punish someone for my abortion, you can punish the partys involved in making it legal, they are the ultimate ones liable.
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Being sent to jail wouldn't have prevented you from doing it Of course it would.
Why not you first? Because I didn't legalize it.
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