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Author Topic:   Intelligent Design explains many follies
inkorrekt
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Message 43 of 302 (290929)
02-27-2006 5:10 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by Gary
02-25-2006 8:32 PM


Re: Evolutionary algorithms
Right on. There are bacteria that will degrade petroleum products. This is an example of adaptation to the environment. I am not sure if they were the products of mutation or they have been here and we identified them only now. For example, in our liver, the enzyme systems that degrade the toxic chemicals like herbicides, pesticides are already present. They did not adapt.

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inkorrekt
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Message 46 of 302 (292555)
03-05-2006 11:05 PM
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02-27-2006 5:30 PM


Re: Evolutionary algorithms
Nylon contains a type of bond not present in any known biological system. Do these herbicides also contain bonds not found anywhere else? Is the human body actually breaking them down, or are they simply stored in fatty tissue, or excreted by the kidneys? """"
No, Nylon contains the peptide bond which is present in all proteins. This is known as CO-NH. No Herbicides have different structures as well as elements. Depending on the nature of the toxic chemicals some are stored in the fatty tissues. But, most of them are degraded by enzymes in the liver and excreted by the kidneys.

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Message 49 of 302 (296249)
03-17-2006 12:57 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by John 10:10
03-17-2006 11:52 AM


How sad it is!!!
On the one hand, we the beauty of the unique wisdom of the designer everywhere. On the other hand, there are others who are biassed and force us to believe that everything came into existence by themselves which is not more than afairy tale.

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Message 61 of 302 (296520)
03-18-2006 6:58 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by Rahvin
03-18-2006 2:07 PM


You must give the instruction first
You must give the instruction first in order for the computer to do what you expect it to do. You give the intelligent instruction. Therefore, you are the designer. Does it make sense?

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inkorrekt
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Message 75 of 302 (296627)
03-19-2006 4:00 PM
Reply to: Message 62 by crashfrog
03-18-2006 7:10 PM


Re: You must give the instruction first
Who designed the algorithm????

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inkorrekt
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Message 77 of 302 (296630)
03-19-2006 4:30 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by jar
03-18-2006 11:24 PM


Re: True Folly
Otherwise it's just another unsupported assertion and something to be ignored.
Well, here, we have a preordained theory of Evolution.What has to be proved has already been assumed to start with. This is known as circular reasoning. Siewing is an evolutionary biologist and he writes," It is like an observer who views a flooded orchard with the only the tips of the branches visible above the waters. He does not know how these branches connect with one another, nor how they eventually connect with the tree trunks. The major part of evolution containing the gaps in the lines of descent ,is hidden under water. These gaps must be bridged methodically" Evolution, Results and consequences, New york, 1982. The set of genes of an organism is a finely tuned team , a balanced genome whose harmonious cooperation determines the orderly development of a living being. This is unchanged at every step of cell division and the division of cell nuclei and chromosomes.This identical replication of the genes guarantees the constancy of genetic information.The replication is responsible for the phenomenon that ducks always hatch from duck eggs with all the characteristics of this bird. Mutations and selections cannot be a source of new or different information. The evolutionary assumption that simple construction plans could produce more complex plans by means of mutations and selection is false accrding to the information theory. Werner Gitt, p64 In Did God use Evolution? CLV Publishers, Bielefeld. 1993.

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inkorrekt
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Message 81 of 302 (296665)
03-19-2006 8:44 PM
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03-19-2006 7:30 PM


What is preordained?
It is the evidence that is missing. Proof is missing and instead of providing evidence, IT HAS BEEN PRESUMED THAT EVIDENCE ALREADY EXISTS. WHERE IS IT? You can rearrange words. You can accuse those who question evolution. The answer is still missing.

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inkorrekt
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Message 276 of 302 (306339)
04-24-2006 8:23 PM
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03-19-2006 7:30 PM


Re: True Ignorance
Evolution is change in species over time. That this happens is undeniable, in fact it has been observed in so many scientific experiments that it is accepted by all the major adversaries of evolutionary theory. New traits, new species, even "irreducibly complex" systems have been observed to evolve
I am yet to find one ID person to accept what you just mentioned. Can you give some examples of this occuring?

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inkorrekt
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Message 278 of 302 (310168)
05-07-2006 11:35 PM
Reply to: Message 277 by RAZD
04-24-2006 9:55 PM


Re: Falsified concepts and credibility
New traits, new species, even "irreducibly complex" systems have been observed to evolve
Can you provide some examples of this happening?

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