OK, show me one intricately complex "man made thing", not a pic of some nature scene, that exists without man first designing and then constructing his design.
Your logic is flawed. You are asking for a man-made object. By definition, it has to have been made by man. We are actually discussing the
natural world, including such structures as found in that "nature scene." You operate exclusively from the perspective that
all things, natural or not,
must have been created. That is, in fact, what is being
debated. Your analogy would work if it was accepted that natural structures have all been "created" as have man-made objects. Since this is not the case, your argument is a house of cards.
I would ask you, instead, to show me a natural structure, such as the one already provided to you in the previous post, and explain how it
must have been designed and created.
Oh, and, by the way - ever heard of evolutionary computing? No actual human design is involved in the resulting program, and it can wind up being incredibly complex. Basically, we give a computer a goal, and the computer eventually finds a solution by trial and error - much like the evolution of life, where what works is kept, and what doesn't work is discarded. No human designs the resulting solution. I think that fits with a "man-made" structure that has not first been designed.
Every time a fundy breaks the laws of thermodynamics, Schroedinger probably kills his cat.
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