Should Evolution and Creation be Taught in School?

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The FACTS are that Biblical Creationism does NOT represent the viewpoint of Christianity

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Not all Christians, no. But in the US, we see that bible belief is the majority, including Noah etc."An ABC News poll released Sunday found that 61 percent of Americans believe the account of creation in the Bible's book of Genesis is "literally true" rather than a story meant as a "lesson."
Sixty percent believe in the story of Noah's ark and a global flood, while 64 percent agree that Moses parted the Red Sea to save fleeing Jews from their Egyptian captors.
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Most Americans take Bible stories literally - Washington TimesNow your list of Christians who DON"T believe the bible that way, (or hardly any way) is meaningless. I could say not all Jesus' deciples believed in Him, and then show a paper signed by Judas.

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For you to come here and make assertions we usually expect some form of support

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I just gave some, the poll.

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The issue is whether or not a subject that has NO supporting evidence, Biblical Creationism, should be taught.

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Says you. It is also the majority right to prayer in school, and the bible, etc. People who believe it have as much support as those who believe non biblical fabrication.

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In the later story, the one found in Genesis 1 we find a completely different God.

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Not true. The creation account is in chap 1, read how 2 starts, it mentions all was already done, and just goes over a few things in more detail.

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Teach the kids to recognize mythos.

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They need to look to fables like the big bang, and evolution beyond creation for that. The bible is true.

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The FACTS are that Biblical Creationism does NOT represent the viewpoint of Christianity

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Not all Christians, no. But in the US, we see that bible belief is the majority, including Noah etc."An ABC News poll released Sunday found that 61 percent of Americans believe the account of creation in the Bible's book of Genesis is "literally true" rather than a story meant as a "lesson."
Sixty percent believe in the story of Noah's ark and a global flood, while 64 percent agree that Moses parted the Red Sea to save fleeing Jews from their Egyptian captors.
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Most Americans take Bible stories literally - Washington TimesNow your list of Christians who DON"T believe the bible that way, (or hardly any way) is meaningless. I could say not all Jesus' deciples believed in Him, and then show a paper signed by Judas.

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For you to come here and make assertions we usually expect some form of support

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I just gave some, the poll.

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The issue is whether or not a subject that has NO supporting evidence, Biblical Creationism, should be taught.

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Says you. It is also the majority right to prayer in school, and the bible, etc. People who believe it have as much support as those who believe non biblical fabrication.

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In the later story, the one found in Genesis 1 we find a completely different God.

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Not true. The creation account is in chap 1, read how 2 starts, it mentions all was already done, and just goes over a few things in more detail.

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Teach the kids to recognize mythos.

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They need to look to fables like the big bang, and evolution beyond creation for that. The bible is true.

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whether or not the idea of Biblical Creationism can be supported. US Christian Clergy.
And it can't.

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Add up all the denominations, and the majority will believe in the flood, etc, I would think. What clouds the issue is the nominal christians who think the bible basically is a bunch of fables and poems. This is no doubt the source for your signees of unbelief. You could find some to sign on to homsexuality as well, plenty no doubt. So what?

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It doesn't matter how many people believe in the GOE

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If they are the majority, it matters. It matters a lot. As for the silly proof boogy man, you have none against, so save it.

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So teach the myths, all the myths, and let the kids learn to identify mythos when they run across it. Then they will be prepared to move on to learn what really happened, how GOD really did it.

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Says who? I say let them pray, and learn about the majority beliefs of their country. If any solid science absolutlely disproves something, that is another matter. But science does not touch the virgin birth, heaven, or the ressurection, or a host of other things.

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And about your reading of Genesis. Right, sure. Sorry Charlie, it's two stories, from two eras and two peoples

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Not if we read it as chap 1 being the account of creation, and 2 being a flashback. All you do is echo outsider's misconceptions with pretended authority. Forget it.

To you. It resonates well for me.

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The poll whisper references is news to me

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Glad to be the bearer of glad tidings.

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Correct. It doesn't touch those things. It does though touch young earth,

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This is where the evolution creation debate comes in. If you have something on that sometime, do tell. Meanwhile, what is this Caanan thing?

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Leave science classes for science (which is not religion. period.).

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Let the majority define science. The only real parts of what is called science under question regarding orgins doesn't much affect the big picture anyhow. It is in that gray zone where science and belief become hard to tell apart where the controversy lies. In that zone, respect the majority. Period.

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The topic of the thread is whether Evolution and Creation Myths should be taught in school. My position is "Yes, we should tech the Creation Myths so that the kids have a basic understanding of Mythos. Then they will be better prepared to learn what really happened."

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The topic of the thread is whether Evolution and Creation should be taught in school. My position is "Yes, we should teach the Evolution Myths so that the kids have a basic understanding of Mythos. Then they will be better prepared to learn what really happened."

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So far all you have presented is some appeal to majority rule, and some claims that Biblical Creationism is the Christian Position

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It is NOT the Christian position. It is the position of those that believe the bible as the inspired word of God, for the most part. As for majority appeal, that applies to more than creation. Almost nowhere is that the majority belief. This means it is my opinion it should not be forced on majorities of other persuasions. I expect muslim teachings in Saudi Arabia. I would not be offended or surprised if they threw in a few little prayers to allah, or references to ho they think the Koran might mention some aspect of science or creation. That is all fine. Majorities can do that. At least when not ruled and oppressed by minorities.Edited by whisper, : No reason given.

The majority of PEOPLE.

I don't know that science covers the big picture. It is out there in the gray zone where faith and evidence mingle that requires some assuming and believing. If we leave that part to the majorities the main areas of science are not that affected.

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Well the majority of people are ignorant of most things,

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What elitist nonsense. Why not get a sign and stand on a street corner that reads "You people are all stupid, I am the smart one"?

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What next, do you let everyone vote on what Islam is or what Judaism is?

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If the majority there is Jewish they may want to decide if they can eat pork in school, etc. Leave it to the people.

Well, the minority shouldn't dictate to the majority in the public schools. We aren't talking about private, and what they can pay for aside from the schools they already pay for!

The big picture includes science but is not limited by it. It includes other considerations, such as whether science covers orgins or not. Does evolution we observe mean it all started in Eden? Or does it mean it must have started somewhere else?
Much of the area is grey. A majority may want to stick to the crystal clear, observed, tested, and well known, main core of science, rather than the grey zone assumptive stuff that conflicts with their beliefs.They may want to have prayer in school, whether science thinks there was a God or not. They may want to teach the bible, whether science likes it or not. They might want to toss out most of the grey zone belief tainted aspects of the orgins related speculations some love to call science! More power to them.If I were king, I would shut down all public schools before the day was done, and open then when and if they started to reflect the will of the majority. Actually, I think it would be better if most stayed closed, and were used for something else, even homeless shelters, or food banks, or low income housing, or public offices, etc! I think svchools ought to be more like the one room schools of days gone by! More personal. Maybe this is not possible, but something a little closer to that, than the monster operations we now see.

The big picture includes science but is not limited by it. It includes other considerations, such as whether science covers orgins or not. Does evolution we observe mean it all started in Eden? Or does it mean it must have started somewhere else?
Much of the area is grey. A majority may want to stick to the crystal clear, observed, tested, and well known, main core of science, rather than the grey zone assumptive stuff that conflicts with their beliefs.They may want to have prayer in school, whether science thinks there was a God or not. They may want to teach the bible, whether science likes it or not. They might want to toss out most of the grey zone belief tainted aspects of the orgins related speculations some love to call science! More power to them.If I were king, I would shut down all public schools before the day was done, and open then when and if they started to reflect the will of the majority. Actually, I think it would be better if most stayed closed, and were used for something else, even homeless shelters, or food banks, or low income housing, or public offices, etc! I think svchools ought to be more like the one room schools of days gone by! More personal. Maybe this is not possible, but something a little closer to that, than the monster operations we now see.

The basic tenets of the faith of the majority, and such respectful observances as they may command, like prayer, are not apologetics ministries, sorry. If anything, the stories of man's past in the grey zone by educators are apologetics ministries.Edited by whisper, : No reason given.