Should Evolution and Creation be Taught in School?

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Because we live in a nation where Christianity is the most practiced beleif, some of my teachers say they are not trying to bring religion into our lives when, in fact, that's exactly what they are doing. I never hear a teacher say a word about evolutionism where I listen to several teachers mention God and creationism. I write this article not to nag, but to make a point. Even though creationism nor evolutionism is not to be taught in the schools, it will always be brought up by the beleifs of certain people.

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I believe that evolutionism and creationism should not be taught in public schools because, all people have different beleifs.

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I agree to a degree. I think creation should be taught. That's one out of two.
People have different beliefs, and where knowledge is intertwined with belief, the majority belief should be represented.

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That's not one out of two - its zero.

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Your opinion, which would deny the majority their beliefs in some countries, is much more zero than creation.

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Pray tell what would you teach? "Goddidit" - that's it?
That's supposed to be some sort of explanation?

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Yes. Far better than some minority belief that there is no God.

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You are constitutionally free to spout that pathetic tripe in Sunday School, but you are not constitutionally free to label it as SCIENCE.

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I assume you speak of the USA. I understand the majority is gagged there by your type. I suggest they shut down the public school system. It is worse than nothing.

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Thankfully we still reserve that right for actual acredited scientists, although its questionable for how much longer that will remain the case in "Idiot America".

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I wouldn't go that far, but I do shake my head how they tolerate such opressive little Godless opinions as yours.

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Creationism is a simple-minded myth for simple-minded people - its not an explanation of anything.

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It is an explanation of everything. Jesus has a place for the simple minded. Nothing wrong with that. All Christians are accredited, and overrule any little limited science credentials.

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It's an excuse for NOT thinking hard about anything, ergo it appeals to those who have difficulty thinking hard about anything...
They naturally gravitate to the simpleton's non-explanation.

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Thinking hard when wrong, and getting wronger doesn't help one. It is like beating the air. Calling people simpletons and simple minded is simply ccondesending balderdash. Not a good thing to be full of. Sorry this is news to you.

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I don't know if you are familiar with the United States of America, but no citizen is gagged in expressing their opinions in accordance with the first amendment to the Constitution. I work for Howard County and the State of Texas, yet am a Spinoza Panthiest (1%<< of population), a member of the Libertarian Party (1%< of population), and a quite vocal critic of most government policy. Yet despite living in the Bible Belt, it is rare that I ever encounter anyone who would seek to silence me. This is because most Americans, despite their beliefs, basically support the Bill of Rights.

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The issue at hand is what is taught in schools, and the majority are Christians in the US. Yet they are gagged, and unable to stop other beliefs called science from being rammed down the throats of children. Did you really not know the context of this, or are you purposely diversionary?

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As to eliminating the public school system, it would be breaking the social contract, which requires an educated populace regardless of financial means, to sustain democracy.

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Where this imaginary contract conflicts with the majority beliefs, it should be flushed. As for democracy, a good start to getting the genuine article would be to respect the majority. This isn't Spinoza Panthiestism.

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Does that mean if one calls oneself a "christian" regardless of any understanding of the term, that they automatically overrule all of science.

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If they believe the bible, I am afraid so. But let's not forget science is not at issue, but the beliefs associated with it, regarding our orgins.

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. I believe you are preaching medievalism, with all the witch burnings, plagues, ignorant medical practices, endless religious wars, etc.

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No, that is what I would like to change, now presided over by the men of the New Inquisitional mandatory propoganda peddling, paganistic poppycock pushers.

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That is nothing compared to the stupidity (destroying public education) and intolerance ("how they tolerate such opressive little Godless opinions") you are evidently supporting.

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Tolerating things that supress the rights of the majority is not a good thhing. Flushing some things that offend the nose and senses is also sometimes needed. That is just how it is.

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Additionally, as a veteran of the US Army, I have been and still am dedicated to provide for the economic prosperity and military effectiveness of this nation against all enemies foreign and domestic. Therefore I am against all efforts to diminish and/or destroy the economy and therefore the military viability of the United States through undermining public education.

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Does your magnominity extend to Palestine schools, Iraq, and Iran? If the economy depends on minority Christless beliefs being stuffed down throats of children, then it needs a correction. When it comes, blame yourself.Edited by whisper, : No reason given.Edited by whisper, : No reason given.

Seems like this thread has been mostly about beliefs. But thanks for the thought.

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Part of the social contract is religious tolerance. It is true that I am an adherent of one of the smallest religions in the USA. Evidently you believe I should have no freedom of religion because I am not in the majority.

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I don't remember, first of all signing some so called social contract. Guess that means you can make it say whatever you like. The contract I sign is not to sell kids down the river. Maybe a few other contracts. None of which you have a thing to do with. As for your shrill false allegations that I would somehow disinherit minority beliefs, I beg to difer.They have their wonderful little place. A safe place. That place is not stampeeding all over the rights and children of the majority. Tolerance must include the will of the majority. Not should include. MUST. Capice?

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There are 500 Indian tribes in the Western hemisphere. Each one has its own creation story. Under equal protection, if Biblical creationism is taught then each Indian creation story should also then be taught, along with Hinduism, Bhuddism, etc. in science class. I wonder when there would be the time to teach science in science class.

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Where the majprity is natives, or muslims, or Hindus, the public mandatory education ought to reflect that. Real science is not involved in any belief. The aspects that require faith ought to reflect the people. Minority rights do not include telling the majority of a mostly Christian nation what to teach their kids. Their right is to attend if they wish.

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Gagged are they? They seem plenty vocal to me.

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Not in the things taught in the public schools. They may squawk on the street corner or private television show, or wherever.

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Unfortunately, the 'majority' for the most part, consists of a bunch of sheep with little or no education.

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So? They have a right to faith, and a say in what is taught. Regardless of the minority opinion that may think in their little heads the majority is a bunch of dumb sheep.

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The 'beliefs' you think are associated with science are a figment of your own imagination, simply because you construe the implications of certain theories as a contradiction to your own beliefs.

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No science contradicts my beliefs.

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Tolerating the majority viewpoint is a lot more scary.
The majority usually isn't very smart, ..

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There is more important things in life than your opinion of what is supposedly smart. You can keep that.

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You essentially want the right to legislate stupidity if stupidity is what the majority wants (which is questionable, even for the Christian majority).

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I don't need a minority dictating what is stupid in their minority minds. They need to pipe down, and move over, and bow to the will of the majority.

If 'tyrany' is having the say what will be taught in public school, better a majority one than a minority tyrany, like at present.

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If the Christian Right was not so dangerous they could be simply dismissed as a lunatic fringe. But they are not, they are also a large segment of the US population, and they are beginning to infect the rest of the world as well.

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Great! As long as the infection is the gospel, healinng, salvation, and truth of the bible, and not some Bush like mass killing.We are in a war of the worlds, and only one side will win.

Of course not, that has nothing to do with science.

No, your opinion is silly.

The rights of the minority do not include dictating to a Christian majority what to teach or believe.

I don't know. I read that most in the US believed in the flood in one poll a few years ago. Certainly most believe in prayer. Maybe even the bible. So, let's get on with it there, and have prayer in school, and bible, which includes creation.
Don't give us the line that most also believe in evolution. I believe in evolution too, starting at the garden of Eden.

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Yes, a right to believe whatever they want, and a right to vote for school board members to represnet them. That's about where it ends. They don't have the right to decide what is or isn't science.

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Of course they do! The hogwash unbelievers have piggybacked on science is absurd. A bunch of beliefs. Actual science is not in any question.

I think we all know that, so?