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Minnemooseus
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Message 4 of 243 (319063)
06-08-2006 11:27 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by New Cat's Eye
06-08-2006 10:56 AM


Civil Union vs. Marriage
The should be two seperate unions of a couple.
1) The civil union, a legal contract executed at your local courthouse. A religion's minister should not be acting as an agent of the government, and I know at least some ministers agree with such.
2) The religious marriage, a union in God's eyes.
A couple, be they hetrosexual or homosexual, may choose to do one or the other or both. But it would be the civil union that would define the legal status of the couple and how it affects their rights and obligations in society.
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Minnemooseus
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Message 32 of 243 (319415)
06-09-2006 2:51 AM
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06-08-2006 2:01 PM


Re: Civil Union vs. Marriage
Catholic Scientist writes:
Minnemooseus writes:
The should be two seperate unions of a couple.
1) The civil union, a legal contract executed at your local courthouse. A religion's minister should not be acting as an agent of the government, and I know at least some ministers agree with such.
2) The religious marriage, a union in God's eyes.
A couple, be they hetrosexual or homosexual, may choose to do one or the other or both. But it would be the civil union that would define the legal status of the couple and how it affects their rights and obligations in society.
So if I got married then I'd have to get a civil union too?
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Yes, you would also need a civil union if you wished such organizations as government and business legally recognise the union. Filing a joint tax form requires a civil union. Inheritance procedinging such as the surviving spouse automaticly getting all possessions unless otherwise arranged would require a civil union. Special visitation rights in a hospital would require a civil union.
A religious marriage would or could be recognised by God and whatever churches, other organizations, and individual who choose to recognise the religious union. But it would not be recognised by the legal system as a contract between the parties. In other words, the religious wedding is not a civil union.
Moose
Edited by Minnemooseus, : Left something out.

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