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JavaMan
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Message 33 of 243 (319457)
06-09-2006 7:37 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by New Cat's Eye
06-08-2006 2:01 PM


Re: Civil Union vs. Marriage
So if I got married then I'd have to get a civil union too?
I don't know what the rules are over there, but in the UK if you get married in an established church (RC, CofE, etc.), then you get the civil union at the same time. If you're not religious, you can just do the legal bit in a registry office or some other place licensed to do it.
Come to think of it, surely that's the same in the US too? Isn't that what crashfrog described a few posts back?

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JavaMan
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From: York, England
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Message 87 of 243 (321842)
06-15-2006 11:46 AM
Reply to: Message 79 by New Cat's Eye
06-15-2006 9:49 AM


Re: Civil Union vs. Marriage
I thought that a marriage is not just a religous ceremony and a civil union. Legally, its something different, right?
I'm having a bit of difficulty answering your question, because 'Civil Union' has a specific legal meaning here since we legalised same-sex marriage, i.e. a same-sex marriage is called a Civil Union here (notice the capital letters).
But my original post was distinguishing between the religious ceremony you go through to satisfy your religion's marriage sacrament, and the paperwork you have to sign to satisfy the state that you are married, i.e. the 'civil union' bit of your marriage (notice the small letters). You can do the latter without the former, but you can't do the former without the latter (well, not if you want to be treated as legally married).
So to go back to your original question:
So if I got married then I'd have to get a civil union too?
You don't have to go through two ceremonies, no. But if you're going for a religious ceremony you have to satisfy both your religion's requirements, and the state's.
Edited by JavaMan, : Changed 'the government' to 'we'

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