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Author Topic:   I still want a different word for 'gay marriage'
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Message 235 of 243 (352586)
09-27-2006 7:41 AM
Reply to: Message 234 by Phat
09-27-2006 5:26 AM


Re: Liberal vs Conservative
Hello Phat:
Phat writes:
Liberalism, to them, involves reinterpreting the meaning of some of our sacred cow-isms. "Legislating from the bench" they call it.
I'm not trying to get accusatory here, but can you describe any of these "Legislating from the bench" reinterpretations? Because, by and large, it has been my experience that when this phrase is hauled out it usually by Conservatives who simply do not agree with the ruling of a Judge, even when that Judge is clearly upholding the friggen Constitution.
Phat writes:
In other words, I don't want The Ten Suggestions to replace The Ten Commandments anytime soon.
And I don't want The Ten Commandments forced upon me.
Phat writes:
I feel uncomfortable with redefining marriage. It is based on current human cultural attitudes to do so...rather than on traditional definitions.
Let me ask you this. Was there a "definition" of marriage already on the books (prior to "gay marriage" becoming such a hot topic), dictating that a marriage is between one man and one women? Honestly, I don't know, but somehow I doubt it, otherwise all these homophobic Republicans would not suddenly feel the need to define it as such. So it would seem that the "redefining" is being done by the Conservatives in response to Gays wanting to receive the same rights and benefits afforded to the rest of the population. It was only then that some sort of "definition" seemed necessary. And a very narrow and discriminatory definition at that.
Phat writes:
There simply is no need for two same sex people to get married, aside from economic and legal benefits. Based on those reasons, I suppose that changing the laws wouldnt hurt anyone....but I'd have to study both sides of the issues.
What? What do you mean by "there simply is no reason"? What are the reason(s) behind a heterosexual couples "need" to get married? What can't gays have the same reason(s)? And by implying that they do it only for economic and legal benefits is pretty insulting, to say the least. At the same time, however, those two reasons are mighty important.

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