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nwr
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Message 97 of 243 (321919)
06-15-2006 2:01 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by New Cat's Eye
06-15-2006 1:55 PM


Male bride
Can you have a male bride or a female groom?
What, exactly, is the problem with having a male bride?

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nwr
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Message 236 of 243 (352595)
09-27-2006 8:24 AM
Reply to: Message 234 by Phat
09-27-2006 5:26 AM


Re: Liberal vs Conservative
Many conservatives want to elect Judges who they believe will interpret the Laws in strict absolute frameworks.
That's the claim. But it makes little sense.
What's the original "strict absolute framework" for the 2nd amendment, the right to bear arms? Clearly the original intent had to do with 18th century muskets. Or a case could be made that the original intent included all arms, including the right of private ownership of an H-bomb. Neither makes sense in the modern world.
The "liberal" view concentrates on the "militia" part, and sees the important part of the 2nd amendment as the right of citizens to organize in rebellion against a tyrannical government. Surely the liberal position makes more sense here.
In other words, I don't want The Ten Suggestions to replace The Ten Commandments anytime soon.
I don't think anybody is suggesting that.
The conservative position seems to be that the ten commandments is, or should be, part of our body of law. Yet there is nothing conservative about such revisionist history. The more sensible view - and presumably I am one of those commie pinko liberals for suggesting it - is that the ten commandments is part of our cultural traditions, and it should be left to the culture rather than the government.
I feel uncomfortable with redefining marriage. It is based on current human cultural attitudes to do so...rather than on traditional definitions.
I'm not for redefining marriage either. Marriage, too, is a cultural tradition. It should be left to the culture, and it can evolve with culture. There might be a point to redefining who is eligible for various benefits. But there is no point to legislate a definition of marriage. Leave it to the culture. The attempt of the "conservative" right to pass a constitutional amendment defining marriage is wrong. It does great harm to the constitution, and to our cultural heritage.
The right wing ideologists have stolen the word "conservative", and repeatedly misuse it. They have also misappropriated the term "liberal", and misuse that, too.

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