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The Foundations of the Debate

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mjfloresta
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Message 22 of 133 (348739)
09-13-2006 12:37 PM 		Reply to: Message 18 by Modulous
09-13-2006 2:51 AM

Re: Denying God
This website hopes to help people who genuinely seek to discover the heart of the debate and learn about it. Some (YE) creationists were taught by people they trust without really being taught the real science behind evolution
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Does the same hold true for men like Harvard-trained geologist Kurt Wise whose mentor was Stephen J. Gould and is now a non-evolutionist? Or any of the many other scientists trained at secular universities (presumably by people they also trusted) who have since rejected Darwinianism? How do you explain this phenomenon?
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09-13-2006 1:10 PM 		Reply to: Message 23 by RickJB
09-13-2006 1:05 PM

Re: Denying God
Sure, but I was making the point that the YeC movement is not just stocked with scientifically-ignorant laypeople accepting the story from people they trust.
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In fact, the YeCers that are most qualified tend to come from secular universities, often start out as evolutionists, and are mentored by evolutionists - not creationists.
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The first phenomenon might be classed as mere transmital of a pop-legend.
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The second is anything but.
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09-13-2006 1:28 PM 		Reply to: Message 25 by crashfrog
09-13-2006 1:20 PM

Re: Denying God
It never seems to happen in the reverse, does it? That an irreligious atheist evolutionist suddenly wakes up, finds the scientific evidence totally lacking, and becomes a devotee of Intelligent Design, before finally determining that the Intelligent Designer is the God of Abraham?
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Yes it does, actually. I'm not gonna ask you to take my word on it, though. I recently read of a husband/wife team of biologists who came to conclude that evolution was implausable. I'll link their story as soon as I find it.
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09-13-2006 2:14 PM 		Reply to: Message 28 by Modulous
09-13-2006 2:02 PM

Re: Some means some, not all
Understood.
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09-14-2006 4:10 PM 		Reply to: Message 49 by ReverendDG
09-14-2006 2:13 AM

scienctists who do research and come up with new evidence do not bother to argue agenst anti-science people, they leave that to people not doing research
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Well that explains Stephen Jay Gould, Richard Dawkins, and a whole plethora of evo "scientists".
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