The Foundations of the Debate

Absolutely true. Many of us who also accept that the TOE is the best explanation to date of what is seen are also theists, Christians even. The debate exists because some few do not agree and so try to push Biblical Creationism, Young Earth fables and ID as though they were science.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Does lightning need God?How about gravity?How about the flu?Or maybe thunderstorms or earthquakes?What about rain?The Biblical Creationists simply worship a picayune little goddlet and miss the glory and awesomeness of GOD. It is sad.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

There is GOLD in them thar hills of US fundamentalism and evangelism. Lots of GOLD. Why all you need is a microphone and call yourself a preacherman and they will line up to give you money. It is the ultimate source, the unending fountain of financial fulfillment.Ken Ham was going broke back in Australia, so he packed up his medicine wagon and dragged it over to the US where the streets are paved with gullible Christians. Where else could folk like Gene Scott, Benny Hinn, Ron Wyatt, Dr. Dino or Fred Phelps be taken seriously. Where but the US would someone like televangelist Peter Popoff who got caught scamming the gullible religious folk and exposed on national TV come back to be earning over $500,000.00 a year as a televangelist again and be taking in millions of dollars every year.Nah, the answer is simple.There is GOLD in the US Christian Mine.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

What does anything in your message have to do with Message 96?It looks like the typical response from Biblical Creationists, instead of answering the point raised, change the subject.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Ah, but they do not take on the science community. They do not operate in the system, abide by the ethics of science. Instead this is just another way to con folk. And remember, in the US there are enormous tax advantages as well as wonderful ways to hide and transfer funds for a religion. Don the mantel of religion and hide the money.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

I think there are several answers. One is that unfortunately, the US population in general is pretty poorly educated. This is particularly true when it comes to the sciences.Second, the people selling the Biblical Creationism are good, very good. The general pastor or preacherman in the pulpit or on the dais is generally a great, well trained speaker. They are masters of emotion and manipulation.When you put those two together, a basically uneducated audience and a masterful salesman, the result is what we see in the US today. We see programs like 60 Minutes touted as NEWS programs, we see indepth investigation being a 60 second spot instead of a 30 second one. We see absolutely masterful conmen like Ken Hamm, Duane Gish, Kent Hovind, Ron Wyatt, Gene Scott, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and the medium that allows them to reach broad audiences.Do not underestimate either side of the equation. The audience is uneducated. The salesmen are VERY good. Add in the profit motive and you get Trinity Broadcasting or Sky Angel.It is a good life.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

As much as it pains me, it is Art, it is Science, it is History, it is Mathematics, it is Literature, it is Language, it is all encompassing. Where the US education system was once one of the best in the world, it is now deplorable. Among the developed Nations, how many do not have a National Curriculum or Standard?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Yes. They market surety. Absolute answers. Simple ones. Whether it is Creationism or Salvation, they offer a sure reply, and one that the audience wants to hear.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion