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Author Topic:   Where is the evidence for evolution?
DanskerMan
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Message 275 of 367 (33858)
03-07-2003 11:34 AM
Reply to: Message 273 by Admin
03-07-2003 10:08 AM


I've emailed adminaquility for advice.
Sonnikke

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DanskerMan
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Message 278 of 367 (33862)
03-07-2003 12:46 PM
Reply to: Message 276 by Dr_Tazimus_maximus
03-07-2003 12:09 PM


Dr. Maximus,
As SLPx has kindly pointed out, I am a "lay-creationist" so regarding the other parts of your post, you will have to explain it to me in terms I can understand. Are you willing to do that?
I was expecting a "backlash" from my post re: lies, and understandably so. I am not claiming that christians don't lie, we are not perfect, no one is. But to say what you did, is simply propaganda, no offence.
It doesn't matter, explain to me, don't explain, igonore me, I don't care anymore.
I thought I was discussing things with people but apparantly I wasn't.
Back to work..
S

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DanskerMan
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Message 283 of 367 (33898)
03-07-2003 10:54 PM
Reply to: Message 281 by Dr_Tazimus_maximus
03-07-2003 6:19 PM


Re: WJ
Hi Taz,
Thank you for clarifying that, that means alot to me.
Sonnikke

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DanskerMan
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Message 286 of 367 (34092)
03-10-2003 11:42 PM
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03-08-2003 6:54 AM


Schraf, the problem I see is that you either reference a massively evo-biased/anti-creationist website ie. talkorigins, or you reference an ad hominem smear campaign. The whole thing is a nice smoke screen so you can avoid dealing with the flaws of evolutionism.
Sonnikke

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DanskerMan
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Message 306 of 367 (34311)
03-13-2003 5:58 PM
Reply to: Message 251 by Dr_Tazimus_maximus
03-05-2003 9:43 AM


Crab
Hi Taz, I've been doing a little reading on the horseshoe crab. Fascinating creature. In fact it must be a concern for evo's since it is a living fossil, and a complex organism. (what would a horseshoe crab w/o a tail do if it got turned upside down?)
Re: Behe, he has said this:
In the final several pages he writes of a totally unrelated clotting system, that of lobsters. In other words, Miller spends almost all of the space writing about things other than how the vertebrate blood clotting cascade may have arisen step-by-Darwinian-step.
ref btw, you can read Behe's rebuttals to his blood clotting criticisms at this same ref.
Anyway, the incredible horseshoe crabs blood is now used to detect lethal bacterial toxins during surgery on humans. This is just another example of the unlimited wisdom and foresight of the Creator.
Here is that link again ref, thanks for pointing it out.
Out of time for now,
Regards
S
p.s. Taz, In what circumstance does "chance favour the prepared mind" according to Pasteur?
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(3rd edit: apparantly you cannot edit the "Subject"..I tried to change it to "Horseshoe Crab")
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DanskerMan
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Message 334 of 367 (34596)
03-17-2003 11:50 PM
Reply to: Message 309 by nator
03-14-2003 7:41 AM


Re: Crab
Sharks and alligators haven't changed much either, so what? Evolution does not require constant, great phenotypic change in all creatures.
another case of ToE "evolving" to meet different standards is it?
Meaningless argument. They [horseshoe crab] evolved with tails.
would you please cite the evidence for this? or were you there at the time of the evolution since you make such an absolute factual statement. btw, from what did the horseshoe crab evolve?
S

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DanskerMan
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Message 337 of 367 (34656)
03-19-2003 12:48 AM
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03-18-2003 6:49 AM


Re: Crab
Hi Mammuthus,
Could I have that version in "non-Phd english" please?
Sonnikke

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DanskerMan
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Message 351 of 367 (34809)
03-20-2003 5:49 PM
Reply to: Message 345 by derwood
03-19-2003 10:00 AM


The level of your discourse indicates that you, like sonnike, have a minimal desire to actually learn anything, but unlike sonnike, you are angry and belicose.
First you slap me on one cheek, then kiss me on the other
p.s. belicose?? is that a made up word? can't find it.
S

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DanskerMan
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Message 364 of 367 (35034)
03-23-2003 8:38 PM
Reply to: Message 346 by Dr_Tazimus_maximus
03-19-2003 10:36 AM


Behe
Dear Taz,
Have you challenged Dr. Behe yourself? He's an easy enough man to reach via email, he's always responded within a few hours when I've emailed him.
There's no sense in little ole' me trying to "defend" Dr. Behe, as I'm obviously under-qualified for the task.
If you think you have really destroyed his case then I don't understand why you wouldn't make it public to him, so Dr. Behe can have a chance at a rebuttal.
That's my 2 cents worth for now.
Regards,
S
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"We arrive at the truth, not by the reason only, but also by the heart."
Blaise Pascal

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DanskerMan
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Message 365 of 367 (35035)
03-23-2003 8:41 PM
Reply to: Message 352 by Coragyps
03-20-2003 6:01 PM


Try bellicose
sorry, I assumed SLPx had spelled it correctly (ie. one "L"), my mistake.
S

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DanskerMan
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Message 366 of 367 (35037)
03-23-2003 8:48 PM
Reply to: Message 335 by Mammuthus
03-18-2003 6:49 AM


Re: Crab
. Thus, the earliest expression boundary of UbdA lies within the second opisthosomal segment in all the chelicerates examined. These results suggest that rather than being derived, the spider UbdA expression in O2 likely reflects the ancestral expression boundary. Changes in the morphology of the first opisthosomal segment are either not associated with changes in UbdA expression or correlate with late developmental changes in UbdA expression.
So what does this really prove??

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