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Author Topic:   Childhood Vaccinations – Necessary or Overkill?
Coragyps
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Message 47 of 327 (365042)
11-20-2006 9:53 PM


Hmmm. Vaccinations....
Anecdote time:
My mother died of polio in 1952 - two years before Salk's vaccine came out. My grandmother (other side of the family) died of typhoid in 1923 - before an effective vaccine. Both were in their thirties. Those didn't have to happen.
I'm in North Carolina on vacation this week. The state has some outbreaks of whooping cough among schoolkids - one of the schools about half a mile from my son's house. My bet is that unimmunized kids are the ones suffering - the outbreak further east is at a Mennonite school, and I'll bet they are more antivaccine that the public at large.
I had measles at age 12 or so - before vaccine - and I remember it 45 years later as the sickest, most miserable two weeks of my life.
I vaccinated my kids.

Coragyps
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Message 91 of 327 (365514)
11-22-2006 9:05 PM
Reply to: Message 87 by Hyroglyphx
11-22-2006 6:02 PM


Re: Great thread, very eloquent
Yes, but I'm saying that if a natural remedy exists, why take synthetic drugs that have many different side effects?
Aspirin is the synthetic alternative to salicylic acid - willow bark extract, if you wish. The latter is the one with all the side effects, like bleeding stomachs. That's why Herr Doktor Bayer spent so much time on aspirin.
Why do you think that a new prescription drug - any new prescription drug - takes years of investigation by the maker to discover side effects? How much of that testing does a "nutritional supplement" have to undergo? If you don't even look for it, the odds are good you might not find it!

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Coragyps
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Message 102 of 327 (365708)
11-24-2006 9:46 AM
Reply to: Message 98 by purpledawn
11-24-2006 6:59 AM


Re: Change Resistant
Synthetic Alcohol in Foods.....
Begging you pardon here, PD, but "synthetic ethanol" is very likely much purer than the moonshiner's version. Any fermentation-derived alcohol will, of necessity, have traces of stuff like acetaldehyde in it. A lot of stuff like that is standard yeast-poop byproducts. Distillation will get the majority of these contaminants out - but ethanol from natural gas won't even contain them in the first place! And for that matter, natural gas is more "natural" than the corn they grow in Iowa to make "natural" ethanol from - it's not the result of 8000 years of genetic manipulation and selection by humans.
AbE: Ephedra stems? Who sang "I'm down to seeds and stems again, too?"
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Coragyps
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Message 130 of 327 (366084)
11-26-2006 1:51 PM
Reply to: Message 129 by purpledawn
11-26-2006 1:30 PM


Re: Mangosteen
Do you feel cranberry juice is unsafe to drink or any other fruit juice?
The juice of the opium poppy seed capsule - its fruit - isn't real safe in any significant quantity. Same with Jimsonweed, mistletoe, jasmine, nightshade, yew, elderberry.....
Just because it's a "natural" product doesn't mean it's good for you.

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Coragyps
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Message 134 of 327 (366170)
11-26-2006 9:31 PM
Reply to: Message 133 by nator
11-26-2006 9:15 PM


Re: Mangosteen
If I was on any other medication, I would want to know that, yes.
Like, say, grapefruit juice interacting with a pretty wide range of prescription drugs: Ask IFAS: Page Not Found
That tells me that "all-natural, organic" grapefruit juice will also interact with quite a few other "all-natural organic" herbs and such. Some of those interactions will be unfavorable. And the folks peddling all that stuff haven't studied those possible interactions at all.

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Coragyps
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Message 243 of 327 (370837)
12-19-2006 9:40 AM
Reply to: Message 238 by nator
12-18-2006 9:54 AM


Re: Safety
I mean, what nutrition does Comfrey provide? Black Cohosh?
And what other benefits do you get from Black Cohosh? None, apparently:
The yearlong study of 351 women suffering from hot flashes and night sweats found that those given black cohosh got about the same amount of relief as those who took a placebo. And those groups saw nothing close to the improvement in women on hormones.
Popular herbal treatment ineffective at easing menopause
And the study was funded by the National Institute on Aging and the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine - people who, if they had a bias, might be expected to lean toward the "alternative" side.

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