Childhood Vaccinations – Necessary or Overkill?

We've never left square one, PD, because you haven't given very many straight answers to very straight questions.

The thing is, the manufacturers and retailers of Black Cohosh will be able to legally go right on selling it as a remedy for those symptoms if they just put the little disclaimer on the box.They shouldn't be allowed to, and that's what the lobbying effort was all about stopping the FDA from being able to do back in the 90's.

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Based on her extensive literature search, Dr. Scheibner in 1993 published a 296-page book entitled Vaccination: 100 years of scientific research shows that vaccines represent a medical assault on the immune system.

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See, that's already a red flag right there.Did she publish a popular press book only, or did she also submit her analysis of her extensive literature search and the conclusions drawn from it to experts in the field of vaccination?My guess is "A".You do know that she is a retired geologist with no training in Biology, virology, or immunology (other than a single year of medical school), right?

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I had four amalgam fillings put in my mouth after previously having none. Two months later I developed clinical depression. I had the amalgams removed a few months ago and have gradually been feeling better with chelation. Some symptoms have disappeared completely. It's impossible for me to say for sure whether mercury has been a factor in the depression, but I thought that having my amalgams removed would do no harm, and possibly help.

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(It certainly helped line the pockets of whomever does your dental work)I was depressed previous to getting three amalgam fillings.I have never had them removed, and after working through a couple of years of mild to moderate depression, I became what I would describe as a very happy, content person.I conclude, then, that my depression was completely unrelated to my fillings and had far more to do with the history of childhood abuse I was dealing with.Is there any crank medical thing you won't believe, LindaLou?Edited by nator, : No reason given.

I've copied this reply to PD's message below. I've also edited it a bit.

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Wouldn't vaccines prevent the species from developing an immunity or means of surviving the virus?

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Yes, possibly.Of course, if you think it is better for nearly all, or all children in one or more generations to die so that evolution could make the species less suceptible to a disease, then we should stop vaccinations. We could also just have a very high infant mortality rate every year.There could also be a local or even worldwide extinction of humans due to disease as well. This will be more likely if vaccines are abandoned.We could also stop giving people antibiotics to combat infection and only let the people with the strongest immune systems survive.Similarly, we could stop giving any medical assistance to pregnant women and let more of them and their infants die from pre- and post-childbirth complications. This would allow only the people for whom pregnancy and birth were easiest to survive, thus making the species stronger.And so on.But that seems a rather callous, Ayn Randian sort of attitude, don't you think? The Spartans certainly would have approved.I think you would be well served by reading up on the history of early childhood diseases before Pasteur came along. Do you have any idea what the death rate was for children under two years of age back then?What you are forgetting is the entirety of the history of life is the history of survival against disease as well as against starvation, environmental change, etc.Even in theory, no species will never be able to evolve to be completely immune from all disease, because, of course, viruses mutate and evolve, too. It is not a game that we can ever win once and for all, but we can and do alleviate a lot of suffering and prevent a lot of death with vaccines.Why anyone would want to go back to the days of kids becoming paralysed from polio and simply dying from whooping cough?

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If parents received childhood vaccinations, would or could their offspring have immunity? Has this even been checked?

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Yes, it has been checked. About 200 years ago, the notion of inheritence of acquired characteristics was rejected.The only way parents could pass on immunity to disease would be through a mutation.(Are you talking about the antibodies that newborns get from their mothers through the colostrum in her milk? That still isn't hereditary)

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I can't keep up with all the posts here.

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We're all really saying the same thing here, LindaLou, so you could probably reply to everyone in a single post.Perhaps you are finding it hard to defend your stance against vaccination because your position is indefensible, being based upon ignorance and fear as it is.You are wrong to not vaccinate. Period. there's no other way to say it. Your reasons for not doing so are misguided and inadequate.Yet again, you have shown is this thread that you share exactly the same "quick fix" mentality that you accuse the "allopathic" medical establishment of having.Depressed? It's just the mercury in your fillings! Take them out and you'll feel better!Feel jittery at work? Take these herbs, you'll feel better!I ask again, is there any out-there, crank medical thing you won't believe?

Vaccination eliminated smallpox from the face of the earth.Polio WAS on the way to being the second disease similarly dispatched, but for people like you.I am going to stop writing now, because I am so outraged and disgusted at your willfull ignorance and your willingness to put your own child and everyone else around her at risk that I am afraid I might say something I shouldn't.

There is no evidence whatsoever that vaccinations cause autism.None.And there have been studies.

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However, it is a fact that autism is much more common than it used to be

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No, thst is not a fact.The fact is that the diagnosis of autism is more common than it used to be.Autism has probably been around a long time but wasn't understood as well as it is today, so it is no surprise that the number of identified cases is higher now that our understanding is greater.Autism is NOT on the rise due to vaccines. It it likely that it isn't on the rise at all.Added by edit:LL, here is an excellent article that examines the evidence we have been discussing. Please do not reject it out of hand becasue it is a skeptical source. It is a well-referenced article and is balanced. Please read this Edited by nator, : No reason given.

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Since autism seems to be on the rise

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Again, I must correct this.The diagnosis of autism is on the rise. This does not mean that the actual incidence of autism is increasing.From this article, which I hope everyone here reads. bold added by me: