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joshua221 
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Message 1 of 172 (380300)
01-26-2007 11:14 PM


I can't think of any good non-american bands.

I can think of plenty american:

Elliott Smith
Daniel Johnston
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Hendrix
Old Blues players who invented rock
Elvis

It seems like the rest of the world is having a drought for music.

All they have to show for is Led Zeppelin and the Beatles, and they suck.

Everyone knows the beach boys were better than the beatles anyway, they don't have a Brian Wilson...

Where are non american good modern bands and music?

Someone relieve me of my ignorance. Or prove to me that I am right.

(This is all in fun, I actually don't think of people through primitive national lines on a map...)

(This discussion is for 1900 and onward, no classical allowed!!)

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joshua221 
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Message 2 of 172 (380301)
01-26-2007 11:19 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by joshua221
01-26-2007 11:14 PM


Led zeppelin does suck tho, jimmy paige is the most unoriginal and harshly sounding shit guitar i have ever heard. power chord blues... he made the blues cliche with his shitty music.
Shure is has a couple good tunes but wow, most of their stuff is this fake bullshit.... the singer doesnt sing anything real, just fake bullshit like the beatles and the rolling stones,,,

all these british bands are making this copycat crap music, haha so lame!!....!!>>>!>.1


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joshua221 
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Message 3 of 172 (380303)
01-26-2007 11:22 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by joshua221
01-26-2007 11:19 PM


oh and eric clapton adds another notch to that list... the guys is horrible--- lets see how many blues licks i can play with this shiny piece of wood!!
HE IS SO UNORIGINAL HOLY GUACOMOLE
couldnt make any innovation if he tried, its a job for him such a lame guy.

AND BY THE WAY--- I HAVE OBJECTIVELY LISTENED TO ALL OF THESE ALBUMS AND THEN REALIZED THAT THEY ALL SUCKED AND THAT THEY WERE COINCIDENTALLY FROM BRITAIN LOL.

Nothing against britain.

Its not like I have a pride for my country as most music here sucks too... but there aren't any awesome musicians outside of our country it seems


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kuresu
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Message 4 of 172 (380311)
01-26-2007 11:40 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by joshua221
01-26-2007 11:14 PM


if you can't stand zeppelin or clapton, you probably shouldn't listen the Yardbirds.

if you want good, non-blues music, try looking in other genres.

oh, and half of the Hendrix Experience was british. Page (not paige) is somewhat similar to hendrix.

another good british band is Robin Trower (again, blues).

Try Pink Floyd.

Deep purple

Moody Blues

Dire Straits

Cat Stevens

The Who

Yes

Cream (eric clapton is in it)

foreign bands outnumber american bands in my music folder.

just because you can't find any decent blues bands that are non-american doesn't mean there isn't good music outside of america.


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joshua221 
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Message 5 of 172 (380319)
01-26-2007 11:53 PM
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01-26-2007 11:40 PM


oh, and half of the Hendrix Experience was british. Page (not paige) is somewhat similar to hendrix.

Yeah and what did they do? - next to nothing.

another good british band is Robin Trower (again, blues).

Got his stuff, simple hendrix clone ... no originality whatsoever...

Try Pink Floyd.

Ok, I admit from what I heard they are ok. But the guitar work is too robotic.. and their live shows have a million people onstage so ridiculous.. No, I'll leave them with mediocre, still have to look into sid barrett though..

Deep purple

Steve Morse is possibly the worst guitarist I have ever seen and heard...

Dire Straits

Again, mediocre... Have their stuff.. The guitarist Mark Knopfler was a huge disappointment for me..

Cat Stevens

Over produced music, but I will admit that he was good. But Are you sure he wasn't american?

The Who

Just recently watched their live dvd set from a famous concert when they were in their prime... THEY SUCK! Townshend is the up there with Steve Morse as a horrible guitarist!!!! The who really are just another unoriginal band with not innovative and bad sounds.....

Yes

Saw the stuff on your website and it sucked hard. They are into finger technique,,, not music... They really are horrid... Like Ynwgwie Malmsteen..

Cream (eric clapton is in it)

Cream was disgusting--- another not innovative and cliche crap project of Clapton... Just watched a dvd of theirs as well.. disappointing as usual with clapton.. What a bad person... SO unoriginal that his name should be in the definition webster.


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alacrity fitzhugh
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Message 6 of 172 (380320)
01-26-2007 11:53 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by joshua221
01-26-2007 11:14 PM


prophex writes:

I can't think of any good non-american bands.

Apocalyptica, Cradle of filth, Epica, Khold, Kamelot, Nightwish, 69eyes, Dir En Grey, Anathema, Anglagard, Sabbath, Cream, Cranberries, Sonata Artica, Deep Purple, Drain Sth(Stockholm), Judas Priest... to name some.


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joshua221 
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Message 7 of 172 (380321)
01-26-2007 11:56 PM


Looks like we are back to square one... These bands are just copies from american music...

None of the bands listed are any good guys, you are really acting silly now...

BTW those metal bands are all the same..

Sabbath was ok, but the lyrics are disgustingly simple minded...

Listen there is no good non american music around anymore.. After the Classical guys (who I hear are good, taking ur word for it) there has been a severe drought in europe at least..

PLEASE SOMEONE PROVE ME WRONG!!


  
joshua221 
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Message 8 of 172 (380322)
01-26-2007 11:57 PM
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01-26-2007 11:53 PM


Come on man, you don't seriously listen to those stupid bands with those stupid names like cradle of filth and kamelot do you???

The cranberries only had one good song COME ON!!


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joshua221 
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Message 9 of 172 (380323)
01-27-2007 12:00 AM


OK
NAME ONE BAND THAT HAS INNOVATED MUSIC FROM OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA and YOU DESERVE A PRIZE!!!!!!!!

THERE ARE NONE IT SEEMS!!!!


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joshua221 
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Message 10 of 172 (380325)
01-27-2007 12:01 AM


EUROPEAN HIP HOP IS DISGUSTING,

ANOTHER NOTCH TO AMERICAN INNOVATION WITH RAP

NAS

What music has Europe "invented"? Techno?? HHAHAHA WHAT A LAUGHING STOCK

ALL THEIR MUSIC IS HAND ME DOWN CRAP!!!!!


  
nyenye
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Message 11 of 172 (380326)
01-27-2007 12:06 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by joshua221
01-26-2007 11:14 PM


if it's a drought then the world really must be deaf? -_- You want good non American music... Blind Guardian... Theatre of Tragedy... tons out there, expand your mind ( BLUT ENGEL )
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joshua221 
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Message 12 of 172 (380327)
01-27-2007 12:06 AM


The only thing that Europe has to stand by is one band, who I admit were extraordinary.

The Beatles.


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kuresu
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Message 13 of 172 (380328)
01-27-2007 12:09 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by joshua221
01-26-2007 11:53 PM


Robin Trower is not simply a Hendrix clone. that fact that you think this makes me doubt your judgement capabilities w/ music.

You have never heard Dark Side of the Moon? Wish You Were Here? Animals? The Wall?

Try Deep Purple, mk II. Ian Gilliam the singer, Ritchie Blackmore the guitarist, one hell of a pianist (forgot name), and the bassist ain't bad. Look up the song April by them.

Cat Stevens grew up in England w/o a doubt.

You need to listen to the older who--the group from the 60s. right now, thier missing half the group--Entwistle and Moon due to their deaths. Moon's death did to the WHo what Bonham's death did to Zeppelin--ended it. the Who just didn't stop. For their time, they are quite original.

As to yes, you've never listened to their album Fragile. The entire band is quite talented. Roundabout is incredible. Heart of the Sunrise is really good, too, if 14 minutes long.

As to Zep, listen to some of their live stuff. You have four incredibly talented people--their bassist ranks as among the best (not to mention the stuff he could do on the piano. Listen to the song No Quarter, preferably the live version. Bonham the drummer is insane. If you don't like Plant's singing, too bad. He and Page were practically as one--a live version of Dazed and Confused will let you see what Plant did live--there aren't too many singers today who do that. And if you don't like Yes because of their "finger focus", Page doesn't have that. Try looking at the chords in the songs--very few are what you termed "blues power chords". there isn't even such a thing--a power chord is 1,5,8 (optional) of a scale.
Furthermore, every song does not even start in the same manner--and the only two that are remarkably similar are their most trad. blues pieced--Since I've Been Loving You and Tea for One.

oh, and we've proved you wrong. Your acceptance of Floyd and Stevens makes your claim moot.


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kuresu
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Message 14 of 172 (380329)
01-27-2007 12:13 AM
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01-27-2007 12:06 AM


uh, dude. in your OP you claimed that the Beatles suck. Now they rock?

broaden your tastes, man.


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anglagard
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Message 15 of 172 (380330)
01-27-2007 12:14 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by joshua221
01-26-2007 11:14 PM


Complex Music
Most of the music I listen to is from outside the US. It is probably too complex for your tastes but it suits me just fine.

Genesis - Tresspass to Then There Were Three, nothing else (Foxtrot and Selling England by the Pound are the best) (UK)
Yes - prior to 90210 (UK)
Pink Floyd (UK)
Jethro Tull (UK)
King Crimson (UK)
Frank Zappa (US)
Emerson Lake and Palmer (UK)
Jimi Hendrix (US)

And the better works of the more obscure -

Gentle Giant (UK)
National Health (UK)
Magma (FR)
Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso (IT)
Soft Machine (UK)
Hatfield and the North (UK)
Balleto Di Bronzo (IT)
Ozric Tentacles (UK)
Thinking Plague (US)
Sleepytime Gorilla Museum (US)
Spoonfed Tribe (US)
Happy the Man (US)
Djam Karet (US)
Area (IT)
Alimaalman Vasarat (FIN)
Semiramis (IT)
Tipographica (JP)
Arti + Mestieri (IT)
Bubu (AR)
Brand X (UK)
Caravan (UK)
DeusEx Machina (IT)
Dun (FR)
801 (UK)
Eskaton (FR)
Peter Frohmader (GE)
PFM (IT)
Kenso (JP)
Le orme (IT)
Egg (UK)
Supersister (NE)
Van Der Graaf Generator (UK)
Yezda Urfa (US)
Anekdoten (SWE)
Anglagard (SWE) :) (thanks for the mention Alacrity)

Al Di Meola (AR) will blow the doors off anyone on guitar, including Zappa and Hendrix, but he is primarily classical/jazz.

Edited by anglagard, : Forgot one


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