Help me find a hypocrite!

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Obama made a speech a couple of months back about SUV's and how impractical they are, as well as a danger to the environment. But then after the speech he was seen getting in to one and driving off in to the sunset.

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His SUV has been modified to burn ethanol.Edited by nator, : No reason given.

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You know, soy chicken, beef, milk, etc.?

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Soy "chicken" and soy "beef" are disgusting.Fresh soymilk and tofu, on the other hand, are delicious.I am not a vegetarian, but I am very particular in my animal protein consumption and I eat a lot less now than I did growing up.

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If not, it's high time. You'll live longer, too, not making yourself subject to the diseases contained in animal flesh and the chemicals fed to them to keep them from croaking.

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Actually, some of the healthiest, most long-lived people on the planet are Okinowans, and they eat pork and fish almost every single day. (also a LOT of vegetables)And if you don't want to eat the chemical-laden animals, buy meat from naturally-raised animals. A lot is available these days.And as far as "diseases contained in animal flesh", the latest mass food recall in the states was E-coli-tainted bagged organic spinach. It seems that the fertilizer they were using (cow maure) wasn't sufficiently decomposed.Veggies can kill you, too.

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I'd vote for banning milk in a yankee minit. What kind of chemicals does it contain much less the diseases present in animals. It is definitely a yuck food.

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That's crap.I live on the border of Vermont. I can buy organic, BGH-free, unhomogonized milk from small family farms with healthy, unstressed cows.It is incredibly delicious and perfectly good for you (as long as one isn't lactose intolerant, of course.)There is also the lovely cheeses to be made from all sorts of milk.

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Mmmmm... I think you've got that the wrong way round. 16 years a veggie, and I still have trouble accepting tofu on my plate. It has to be done just right or it just tastes like rubber.

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No, it doesn't have anywhere near the kind of flavor rubber does. The best chocolate mousse I ever had was one made with silken tofu-which is essentially flavorless, so it allowed the high-quality chocolate the chef used to really shine through.But anyway, I LOVE chewy tofu.

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But there's a restaurant here in seattle called 'the teapot' which does an all vegan menu full of soy beef/chicken and fish...
I'm salivating just thinking about it.

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Might be tasty, but I doubt very much that they taste anything like real chicken or real fish or real beef. Especially the beef.I don't like the idea of food that's been forced to try to pretend to be something it isn't and cannot hope to be anything like. It's dishonest from a culinary perspective; if you want to eat vegetable protein, then eat it, but don't try to dress up tofu with stuffing and gravy and pretend that it is turkey. It isn't. It isn't even close.If you gave up eating meat, then eating "pretend meat" is just a silly way to want things both ways.

I eat Boca Burgers sometimes, which are supposed to be like beef burgers.They taste good, but they don't taste anything like beef.

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I found something that said something that said something I wanted said.
I've seen it said in other places, heard it said in other places, then I simply picked what was seen and heard and found it said what I wanted to say. Shoot me!

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Well, that's why it is important to actually read the sources you use to support your arguments.(FYI, not everything that people post on the internet is true.)

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Before you go to great lengths to capture methane, let's say from cows, think about the resources that will be spent capturing it. You'd need millions and millions of devices hitched to a cow's ass, making sure they don't leak ... and so on.

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That's not the methane that would be captured.The methane (biogas) production from farm animals is produced from the decomposition of their waste, not from the gas they release themselves.(And cattle don't release the methane by farting, but by belching)

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Even if tomorrow everyone decides to put a windmill in his backyard, the environmental "costs" to make these windmills will just be the same, if not worse, than if they just use nuclear energy.

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Not true.You don't have to mine to get wind.You don't have to do any complicated "enriching" of the wind to make it useful as energy.You don't have to deal with dangerous radioactive spent fuel rods.Wind doesn't cost anything and is 100% renewable.

I just don't get that thing with Edwards and the expensive haircut.I mean, Bill and Melinda Gates run the largest endowment charity in the world, and I don't see anybody demanding that they sell their mansion and move into a basement two-bedroom apartment in a complex on the ourskirts of Pierre, SD.

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And I take it those windmills grew out of the ground and flew to the US all the way from Spain by themselves?

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Is there any reason we couldn't make windmills here?AbE: We actually do make them here. I found at lest 4 companies that manufacture them.Edited by nator, : No reason given.

My original point, of course, was that windmills and nuclear reactors are not really equivalent as far as environmental impact, as far as we know.

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Our beer buddies are political figures. They hire and fire presidents.

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Only sort of, unless the electoral college was disbanded when I wasn't looking.

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Why would you need help finding out how much of a hypocrite she is?
A google search on, why Hillary Clinton is a hypocrite returned 337,000 pages.

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Just how many of those websites are legitimate, and how many are wacko wingnuts who start frothing at the mouth at the mere mention of the Clintons?Hell, I got 1,170,000 google hits on a search of God hates Republicans. Does that mean it is true?

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Here's one.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.../04/20/AR2007042001589.html

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That's on the heels of her making a plea to stop world wide prostitution. She gets her money from people who glorify the things she denounces.

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All the better, wouldn't you say, to use a gangsta rapper's money to work against prostitution and violence?But anyway, that's not the kind of hypocrisy we're talking about.We are talking about a politician being caught engaging in activities they specifically try to pass legislation to ban or restrict, or that they particularly condemn.Much more direct than "turning a blind eye", which was your example.Clinton didn't engage in international prostitution.

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Not to mention she is just an outright liar.

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Really? How so?

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I would love to see a woman as President, but not her. She has a paper thin record, and is running on her husband's success.

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Actually, she is mostly running on her own tremendous success as a very popular and skillful Senator from the state of New York.

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They should name a dance after her, called the sidestep tango.

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My question to is, why would one side be any better than the other?
There is no difference between the word politician, and hypocrite.

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Arnold for President!

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If they are all hypocrites, then so is Arnold. He's just as bad, right?Arnold is well-meaning but doesn't have what it takes to be a good President.Kind of like the Shrub....except for the well-meaning part.

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Example #2. On the one hand, the FDA, in the power & $$ bed with the pharmaceuticals, hospitals & mainline medical practitioners, is ever so fussy about relatively minor problems with the herbals, vitamin & mineral alternative health agenda, disallowing pretty much any claims to advocating as treatment. On the other hand, several hundred thousand deaths and who knows how much suffering is tolerated in the billions of $$ pharmaceutical driven conventional health agenda blessing them along with all the devastating side effects with all the claim for effective treatments of the given ailments. Compared to the hundreds of thousands of deaths & likely millions of side effect complications, the alternative wholistic health practitioners and the products are the cause of nearly no deaths and relatively few side effects, nearly all side effects being good for the user or patient.

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You are making a meaningless comparison, buz, as I have explained many times to you in the past, but that you apparently have never learned.Where are the detailed records of how many people have used herbal drugs, why they have used them, what the dosage of the active ingredient was, how long they took the drug, what the side effects were, if any, and if they were helped by the ingestion of the drug or not?The reason we know about the deaths and injuries from conventional drugs and treatments is becasue doctors and pharmaceutical companies are required, by law, to keep lots and lots of records of the sort I mentioned above.Unless you have similar records of herbal drug use, you have no idea if the rate or percentage of injuries and deaths is greater or lesser than that of conventional medicine.Also, you have consistently ignored the fact that, as conventional medicine including vaccines has advanced and use of folk or herbal cures has receded over the last 500 years or so, overall health and lifespan has improved dramatically.So Buz, where are the detailed results of the tests comparing the people who took an herbal medicine compared to those who took a synthetic drug? What about those who took a herbal medicine against those who took a placebo?Where are the results of tests to show what the effects are, both positive and negative, of botanical chemicals that people consume in herbal teas and in pill form in the hopes of curing an illness?Untill you can provide that information, your comparisons are meaningless.

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Tree huggers and greenie type (usually leftist) decry, complain, march & demonstrate against just about anything related to carbon dioxide, all the while ignoring the fact that the trees they hug and the green they claim to be promoting trives luciously on the carbon dioxide they are demonstrating against. The more carbon dioxide we read and hear about from these hypocrits, the more of a jungle the woods on my land is becoming and the more oxygen the lush growth is producing for me and my neighbors to breath. I need a machette sometimes to get up the paths anymore. Not only that, my sweet corn gets taller every year, this year about 8 ft tall & growing.

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Yeah, buz, the plant growth on your little plot of land in New York state is the only measure anyone ever need use to see if carbon levels on the entire planet are causing problems.Bloody hell, why does anyone ever bother consulting climatologists, ecologists, or any other highly-educated expert since you, Buzsaw, clearly know better than they do?

Rat, are you going to demonstrate how Hillary is engaging in international prostitution?Are you going to demonstrate that she is a liar?