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Author Topic:   How can Biologists believe in the ToE?
riVeRraT
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Message 44 of 304 (398713)
05-02-2007 10:13 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by RAZD
04-03-2007 8:20 PM


Re: Re-ToE
So it's ok to believe in ToE, and creation?

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riVeRraT
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Message 48 of 304 (398839)
05-02-2007 9:48 PM
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05-02-2007 1:32 PM


Re: Re-ToE
See, this is what I don't understand about you and other creationists. According to you, there was a world wide flood that killed off everything except for Noah's family and the creatures that lived onboard his ark
Just for clarity,I do not know if I am a "creationist" or not. I believe in God. I believe He did create the world. How He did it, is still up in the air.
As far as the flood goes, I still believe it could have happened, and if it did, it was a God thing, not a science thing.
I do not know enough about the ToE to believe in it or not.

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riVeRraT
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Message 51 of 304 (398965)
05-03-2007 8:37 AM
Reply to: Message 49 by Nuggin
05-03-2007 12:24 AM


Re: Re-ToE
I hear ya. I'm the same way about gravity.
Comparing gravity to the ToE, is, well, idiotic.
So tell me, just how does gravity work?

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riVeRraT
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Message 52 of 304 (398966)
05-03-2007 8:41 AM
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05-03-2007 12:48 AM


Re: Re-ToE
Now why would God ever do that?
So we can have faith.
God knew Jesus was going to come, and that there would be a day when Him showing up here and there was not required, and that the temple is us now.
The bible tells us to focus on the unseen, not the seen.

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riVeRraT
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Message 57 of 304 (399231)
05-04-2007 2:58 PM
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05-03-2007 11:28 AM


Re: Re-ToE
[qs]Clearly, if you don't know enough about ToE to believe in it, you can't possible believe in something as out there as gravity.[q/s]
My point is, that I wouldn't compare the two.

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riVeRraT
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Message 58 of 304 (399232)
05-04-2007 3:01 PM
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05-03-2007 11:37 AM


Re: The ToE and why people accept it without realizing
Nobody believes in the ToE - scientists believe
funny
Naturally, knowing about all of the proposed mechanisms and how they work is beyond most people's interest levels. If you feel you'd like to learn more about them, there is a wealth of information out there for you. You may come to the conclusion that the theory is the best explanation for explaining changing populations though you may still disagree with just how much change is possible using the mechanisms described within.
Given what I have learned here, and all that I have read, I don't have a problem with it. We very could have been created to evolve. Makes no difference to me.
Thanks for your answer.

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riVeRraT
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Message 59 of 304 (399233)
05-04-2007 3:03 PM
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05-03-2007 12:56 PM


# Matthew 6:6
But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
Matthew 6:5-7 (in Context) Matthew 6 (Whole Chapter)
# Matthew 6:18
so that it will not be obvious to men that you are fasting, but only to your Father, who is unseen; and your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.
Matthew 6:17-19 (in Context) Matthew 6 (Whole Chapter)
# 2 Corinthians 4:18
So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.
2 Corinthians 4:17-18 (in Context) 2 Corinthians 4 (Whole Chapter)
So you understand the context in which I meant that.
I did not mean to imply, not to look at bacteria under a microscope, (which we can see.)
I am pointing what should be imporatant in our walk of faith. That is God, and love, not creation science.

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