for the record (re: guns thread)

I am puzzled by what is meant by this statement. Are you saying that there are 100,000 instances of manslaughter in the US in 2001 due to firearms? Are these prosecutions successful or just filed? What is your direct source in the BJS as they are online and linking to this source should not prove too formidable a task.Granted I just did a cursory search but I can't find this information in either the BJS or the MMWR summaries.Edited by anglagard, : Change title and add last sentence.

I am curious why the experience of the Swiss is considered off limits.My understanding is that all Swiss men between 18 and 45 are issued a machine gun and lots of rounds of ammo, and that they go through two weeks of military training per year.This appeared to have kept them from being invaded since the Napoleonic Wars.So if it is all about defense, if it is all about community, if it is all about fear, if it is all about responsibility, is this not an appropriate response?Or are the Swiss somehow superior or more grown up than other societies?

As I asked Crashfrog:

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I am puzzled by what is meant by this statement. Are you saying that there are 100,000 instances of manslaughter in the US in 2001 due to firearms? Are these prosecutions successful or just filed? What is your direct source in the BJS as they are online and linking to this source should not prove too formidable a task.

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I asked for your source, do you have it yet?

Try here: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/tables/frmdth.htmNotice that all firearm related deaths in the US were 29,573 in 2001.As a reminder, this is what you posted in message 220: It is true we are not exactly talking about the same thing here being prosecuted vs actual cause of death, but I believe the figure concerning actual cause of death is more relevant to the discussion.After all, you seem to be implying that there are over three perpetrators for each victim, including suicide.