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Author Topic:   for the record (re: guns thread)
Jon
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Message 295 of 305 (400527)
05-14-2007 3:00 PM
Reply to: Message 293 by crashfrog
05-14-2007 2:30 PM


Re: Bump for Question
Like I said, though, the existence of even one person is sufficient to prove Jon wrong.
It would prove my claim of all or nothing, so to speak, wrong. However, if there are 40 incidents a year, do you think that justifies reducing the militia's arsenal down to only hunting rifles and muskets? You seem to want to chop down the whole damn tree just to get rid of the couple branches weighing on the power lines.
Also, statistics for involuntary manslaughter by other means than just guns would also be helpful in proving that the easy access to these guns is really behind it all. I mean, maybe guns are the least frequently used weapon for such circumstances.
However, seeing as how you cannot produce even your original statistics, I doubt you will be able to produce those.
Jon
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Jon
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Message 297 of 305 (400550)
05-14-2007 7:27 PM
Reply to: Message 296 by crashfrog
05-14-2007 6:10 PM


Re: Bump for Question
No, but I think the very large number of suicides, murders, and unintentional homicides does. I mean, c'mon. Do you think if Canada invades, it's going to be that hard to get your hands on a gun? They'll all be down at the Nat Guard armories, or else we can bring them up from Mexico.
Errm... as has been discussed in other parts of these two threads, the whole purpose of the 2nd Amendment was so that people wouldn't have to wait for their government to provide them with weapons before they go to deffending their homes. Do you know how remote some of the border areas are? Not everyone lives down the street from an armoury.
No, I did produce them - the Bureau of Justice Statistics webpage. Everybody's acting like I haven't cited a source, but I've mentioned it at least 3 times, now. I suspect you're just grasping about for some tenuous reason to dismiss my whole argument.
No, you said you couldn't find the exact place. Angla also said he couldn't find the stats you were talking about. So far, no one can locate exactly where your information is coming from, unless you did provide a link somewhere back that I missed. I'll go check.
Jon

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