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Author Topic:   God's existence cannot be proven logically!
Buzsaw
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Message 26 of 57 (400853)
05-16-2007 10:41 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by dwise1
05-16-2007 3:27 PM


God Exists Within The Universe
Huh? God is supposed to over Nature, not a part of it. God is supposed to be outside of the natural universe and above it, to have preceded it and to have created it. That means that God is supernatural.
It seems to me quite obvious that God would be supernatural. Please explain your reasoning that God must be a natural entity.
According to the scriptures God exists within the universe. In Psalms it has him in the "heavens." In the NT the Lord's Prayer has it "Our Father who are in Heaven...." In the Revelation chapter 4 and chap 21 his abode is described with existing golden streets, pearly gates, living creatures angels et al.
By definition the Universe includes all that exists and that including the Biblical god, Jehovah, Jehovah meaning the one who is/exists.
Personally I go with the multitudes of significant fulfilled prophecies verified by history as well as personal remarkable answers to prayer and the witness of his Holy Spirit residing within my body as the NT teaches to verify his existence to my satisfaction. Receiving the Christ (Jesus) is to receive the multipresent spirit of Jesus and God into one's body, mind and soul.
God, having eternally existed, has always had a universe around him to exist in so imo, time is eternal. This all is implied in scriptures which give lots of info about the nature and prperties of God, his son and his multipresent spirit, i.e trinity.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW

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Buzsaw
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Message 35 of 57 (401042)
05-18-2007 12:51 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by ICANT
05-16-2007 11:35 PM


Re: God Exists Within The Universe
ICANT writes:
Buz if your statement is correct then Genesis 1:1 is false. (God could not create the heaven if it was His residing place.)
Is this what you are saying?
Genesis 1:1 does not mention universe. All it says is whenever the things in the universe including the heavens and earth was created God did it. It does not specify which heavens or any specific heavens et al nor does it say all parts of heaven were created at one time. It is simply an opener for the Genesis record and day one did not begin until the Holy Spirit of God began to work on the planet earth.
ICANT writes:
I do not believe God's existence can be proven logically!
Imo, it's logical that since his book predicts so many events of world history as accurately as it has shown, this is evidence of his existence. This is corroborated by other factors relative to experience as people of faith et al.
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