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Author Topic:   How can Biologists believe in the ToE?
nator
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Message 185 of 304 (423195)
09-20-2007 6:48 AM
Reply to: Message 184 by IamJoseph
09-20-2007 6:43 AM


Re: THE GREATNESS OF ... being on topic?
So, are you saying that thousands of scientists are just really bad at doing science?
Like, incompetent?
Also, why are predictions based upon the Theory of Evolution ever successful, if it is so incredibly wrong?

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nator
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Message 187 of 304 (423197)
09-20-2007 7:00 AM
Reply to: Message 186 by IamJoseph
09-20-2007 6:50 AM


Re: THE GREATNESS OF ... being on topic?
So, are you saying that thousands of scientists are just really bad at doing science?
Like, incompetent?

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nator
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Message 196 of 304 (425726)
10-03-2007 10:09 PM
Reply to: Message 195 by CTD
10-03-2007 10:03 PM


Re: what it is
Do you really think that the hundreds of thousands of scientists who have been advancing our understanding Biology over the last 150 years at the most astonishing pace have all just been deluded? Since several of the main occupations of scientists are critically examining theory and trying to falsify hypotheses, are you also accusing all of those Biologists of being so poor at doing science that they have, to a person, missed the fact that the overarching, foundational theory that underpins all Biology is completely false?

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nator
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Message 259 of 304 (432152)
11-04-2007 8:22 AM
Reply to: Message 257 by Antioch's Fire
11-04-2007 1:48 AM


Re: What do those things have to do with evolution?
Hello AF, and welcome.
I trust you've read the OP?
If so, I'd like to read your perspective on the second part:
Do you really think that the hundreds of thousands of scientists who have been advancing our understanding Biology over the last 150 years at the most astonishing pace have all just been deluded? Since several of the main occupations of scientists are critically examining theory and trying to falsify hypotheses, are you also accusing all of those Biologists of being so poor at doing science that they have, to a person, missed the fact that the overarching, foundational theory that underpins all Biology is completely false?

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nator
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Message 282 of 304 (440296)
12-12-2007 1:29 PM
Reply to: Message 279 by LucyTheApe
12-12-2007 11:16 AM


Re: Integrity
quote:
What I'm worried about is that the kids are being brainwashed by supposed truths before the facts are laid on the table.
So what facts about Evolution do you believe are missing?
Do you similarly mistrust the teaching of the various competing theories of Gravity, something we understand far less thoroughly compared to Biological Evolution?
Just becasue we don't have perfect knowledge doesn't mean we don't know anything.
The ToE has been tested and refined for around 150 years. The most recent line of evidence that contributes to its robustness is the discovery of DNA and the role genes play in heredity. We learned that the morphological tree of life, built using Evolutionary concepts before Genetics existed as a field, matches the subsequently constructed genetic tree of life very closely.
Given this evidence, what misgivings do you think warrant mistrust of the ToE?

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