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sidelined
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Message 200 of 217 (433027)
11-09-2007 3:42 PM
Reply to: Message 198 by Raphael
11-09-2007 12:48 PM


Raphael
The babies were innocent, but their parents had every chance to save them, and they chose not to
And of course the response of a righteous God is to kill the innocent along with the guilty. Truly pulls at the heartstrings the level of love shown there. Small wonder people feel so drawn to it.

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Message 208 of 217 (447035)
01-07-2008 8:30 PM
Reply to: Message 207 by imageinvisible
01-07-2008 7:30 PM


Re: Absolutly no idea
imageinvisible
who God is, and frankly I wouldn't want to be you when you find out.
Yes if you cannot win by force of evidence it is always better to fall back on the Christian love ploy and threaten someone.

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sidelined
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Message 210 of 217 (447083)
01-08-2008 12:48 AM
Reply to: Message 209 by imageinvisible
01-07-2008 11:55 PM


Re: Absolutly no idea
imageinvisible
The threat is real but it is not from me and I do not have the power to carry out that threat.
Not at all.The threat is only generated by the claims of writing from the dusty long dead dreams and agendas of people deceased before any inkling of modern understanding arrived in the consciousness of humanity.
Because the threat is real, and when my time on earth is done, I want to know that I did everything I could. That I gave it all that I had to give, and left the rest up to God. I have been given a commision by God to lead as many to salvation as I can.
You have to wonder how it is that God never seems to be able to do these things for himself eh?
Hell the biggest detriment to any direction I would even begin to take towards such drivel would is nullified by the incessant pandering to such obvious human agendas and politics. What would an omnipotent omniscient God need with human efforts and articulations.
How odd it is that the claim that a God really exists is so vehemently backed by people with such ill conceived means of conviction and argument in their favour.
You can think whatever you want about me and about God, but ultimately you are the one who has to decide what you do with the information you have been given
And which of the literally thousands of different POV's concerning God and right action etc etc do you pretend to be able to tell me is correct at all?
Sorry, the greatest likelihood is not that God is a rational entity that exists but the workings of irrational people desperate for a father figure to take them away from the responsibility for and the acceptance of the facts of life.
My prayer though is that you come to understand just how much He realy loves you, and that He does not want to see you choose destruction over a personal relationship with Him.
Funny how God seems to find it necessary to never deal in the first person for one excuse or another.
Did you catch the love reference in the same sentence with destruction? Ah, Christian love, you gotta fear it.

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sidelined
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Message 215 of 217 (447113)
01-08-2008 3:44 AM
Reply to: Message 212 by imageinvisible
01-08-2008 1:53 AM


Re: Not true
imageinvisible
Not true. I mearly speak the words, it is the Spirit of God which convicts the hearts of man. It is the Bible which says that if you hear His voice do not harden your heart.
It is still men who do the talking and writing not God. God remains ,as always, silent. It is not possible to harden your heart against that which does not ,nor ever has, spoke to you.
There are only two options when one is presented with the Word of God, either you accept and submit or you reject it and maintain control of the destiny you have chosen.
Or realize that it is a work of men ,faulty and barren of content, except in the context of the times when the supernatural was the explanation from people who knew nothing.
If I had not told you that the ship was sinking then I would be responsible for your death, it is the same as if I had killed you myself. But if I tell you the ship is sinking and you do not heed you are reponsible for your own fate. I cannot choose for you, you live or die acourding to your own choice.
But there is no ship sinking here. It is just the running wild of imagination over the long ago words of tribal people living without understanding of the forces about them.
You assume that the conciousness of man is flawless and without fault when you yourself are proof that it is not.
You assume much about without benefit of any real insight. In what way is consciousness flawed or not flawed? I fail to see how you make this claim with such arrogance.
Man is flawed, he will lie, cheat, and steel just to get a leg up on those around him, to gain power, fame, and fortune.
I will grant you that men do just such acts. They also tell truths , remain faithful, and give from their wealth to others without need of reward or fear of punishment. And they will do so without gain or recognition or financial reward.
The heart of man is wicked and seeks after wicked things, but man does not want to hear this message. He wants to have his ego stroked, he doesn't want anyone to tell him that he isn't perfect just the way he is
No doubt some men are this way. So what? The deeds of the few do not reflect that of all. The message is flawed and of little value.
He doesn't want to know that there is a Being far supperior to him that will one day reqiure him to be acountable for his actions.He doesn't want someone to tell him that if he invests in imorality his return will be imorality multiplied
There is no good reason to accept this is true in the least. In my experience the facts are that there is no accountability brought to actions against a man except by other men. Again God is conspicuously absent.
If he invests in hate his return will be hate in great measures. This is the premise behind "You reep what you sow." Man does not want to hear this. He wants to have his ears tickled, so he gathers around him those who will tell him what he wants to hear, and in so doing becomes deaf to the truth. Hearing they do not hear. Hell is real and the world is headed there in a hand basket. The planet earth is sinking into hell. For the love of God get out now while you still can.
I doubt there is any measure taken against men after they die that matches this scenario you lay out. It is again the prose of ancient long dead people who have come and gone no longer to trouble the world or be troubled by it that bids your own writing to such troubled sentences. It must be difficult to deal with the world from your POV.
We are mortal and we have our moment in the sun and too soon it fades to waste time with such childish concerns over mortality and the fear of living much less dying.

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