Jazzns writes:
I am just absolutely baffled by anyone who would defend a man like John McCain who DOES endorse torture.
I have been arguing that McCain because of his days in the lab with his captors is better qualified to know whether torture works than someone who has never been tortured is.
What has what McCain believes about the use of torture got to do with his ability to know from his days in the laboratory with his captors whether it works or not. He was not the only POW there.
In
Message 142 I said:
ICANT writes:
Do you know anyone better qualified to know if it works or not?
If he voted for it that means he did not feel it was inhumane.
He thought it could produce positive results.
In
Message 144 you replied to the above:
Jazzns writes:
There are plenty of people who are better qualified to know if it works or not. What are John McCain's credentials when it comes to criminology and intelligence? Because you see, there are plenty of people who have studied torture and it is well understood among those people that it in fact does not work.
Saying that a POW is the most qualified to know if torture is effective is simply asinine.
In
Message 145 I replied asking a question:
ICANT writes:
So you are saying a person that has never been exposed to torture would know whether it works better than someone who has experienced it.
To borrow your words that is 'asinine'.
In
Message 147 you evaluate my reading and comprehension skills. Then inform me:
Jazzns writes:
Thats not what I said because you can't read.
I said that if McCain thinks torture works, it is irrelevant if he was once a POW or not, he is standing AGAINST the experts who have studied it that shows that it in fact DOES NOT WORK!
McCain's view is irrelevant because the experts know better than he does.
You make an assertion "that it in fact DOES NOT WORK!"
Do you know for a fact torture does not work?
In
Message 149 you change up a little:
Jazzns writes:
John McCain should know more than anybody else that torture doesn't work. What I should have said is that it is asinine the thought that his time as a POW gives him a superior opinion to CONTRADICT the well known fact that torture does not work.
You state him being a POW gives him a superior opinion.
Well it does give him an opinion from the lab rat's prospective.
In this message you shout your disgust with people who would endorse torture. You are welcome to your opinion on that.
But that is not what I have been arguing and will not argue.
God Bless,
"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."
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