Is complexity an argument against design?

Jesus has already done this for me as He declared in John 10:27-28,"My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand."I'm very sorry you do not hear His voice, nor follow Him, knowing the eternal life He gives to those who love Him and keep His commandments. But just because you don't does not mean that others cannot hear His voice, knowing the eternal life He gives to those who honor Him as Lord.Blessings

Maybe you would like to try answering some of the questions the Lord posed to Job in Chapters 38-41?When Job realized he could not answer the Lord's questions, he humbled himself, repented, and said this in Chapter 42,1 Then Job answered the LORD and said,
2 "I know that You can do all things, and that no purpose of Yours can be thwarted.
3 'Who is this that hides counsel without knowledge?' "Therefore I have declared that which I did not understand, things too wonderful for me, which I did not know."
4 'Hear, now, and I will speak; I will ask You, and You instruct me.'
5 "I have heard of You by the hearing of the ear; but now my eye sees You;
6 Therefore I retract, And I repent in dust and ashes."Unless you are willing to receive instruction from the Lord, far be it from me to give you any more.Blessings

This forum is established primarily for the purpose of propagating the speculations of the ToE that is then purported to be true verified science, when in fact it is unlike any other scientific endeavor that is studied, verified, repeated, and yes, proven to be true by trial and error to a very high degree of accuracy.Worship if you will your "ToE religion" - the written body of teachings of a religious group that is anti-Creator that are generally accepted by that group - in the name of true science, but it is pure and simple worship just the same.Yes, I worship my Creator and Lord, but I do so also by respecting the true scientific understanding of life and His universe as He allows us to understand His creation "and subdue it" (Gen 1:28), not by denying His existence, relying instead on the ToE speculations as the basis of our faith.Blessings

Whether you recognize it or not, the ToE is your religion.The science that I respect is the science that is studied, verified, repeated, and yes, proven to be true by trial and error to a very high degree of accuracy. This the ToE can never do because of the billions of years necessary to verify that it can acutally take place the way the theory says.The last time I asked whether or not the ToE was still a theory, most at this forum said it was. I guess some will now retract what they have said.

If you would stop long enough to listen to what you are saying, maybe you would hear the absurdity of what you have just said.Almost everything that man does in science, engineering, medicine, etc. is done with man's creativeness and design. Yet the diversity and complexity of life in the world around us is far far more complex than anything man has been able to create and design in his puny little brain and build with his hands, much less understand how it fully works.So evolution without a Creative Intelligent Designer is a better explanation of how things are as they are than in believing that only by a Creative Intelligent Designer could a single life cell come into being, let alone millions and millions of living breathing fully formed diverse creatures?No matter how much you say it has, evolution has not been "fully tested and proved" as have most other scientific principles that we understand to a great degree of accuracy, and utilize. As such, evolution has become your "religion", no matter how much you declare it is not.Edited by John 10:10, : added utilize

You are absolutely right!Diversity and complexity, themselves, don't suggest god.Diversity and complexity demands that there be an omnipotent Creator, unless you have faith that believes a natural process is the only thing that is good enough to explain it.

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Scientific law - WikipediaBut I have no respect for a theory that has not been proven, such as the ToE, that serves no useful purpose and produces no benefit to mankind. There is a big difference between scientists learning how plants, animals, and matter functions, than in studying plants, animals, and matter to somehow theorize how they came to be without a Creator. In fact, the ToE's main purpose is nothing more than to deny our Creator, thereby turning man away from seeking a relationship with his Creator.

Read my lips.I respect the laws of science where man actually learns how humans, animals, and plants function, and then man uses this knowledge and understanding to help doctors, vets, and agronomists better care for humans, animals, and the plants we grow.I respect the laws of science where man actually learns how matter functions, and then man uses this knowledge and understanding to build electric energy power plants that supply our electric energy needs.I respect the laws of science where man actually learns how to manipulate matter, and then man uses this knowledge and understanding to build transportation systems and vehicles that allow us to go to and fro throughout the earth, and even into outer space.The ToE does focus on a "how theory" of our existance, but its primary focus is on a "how theory" that excludes divine intervention that can never be fully tested by any meaningful scientific measure, no matter how much you say it has been fully tested as are most other scientific laws.The better question you should be asking is not "how" man came to be, but "why" man came to be.Darwin's ToE has no answers for the "why" because he gave up his belief in the "why" when he was 40.