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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
The object of the thread was to show proof of biblical prophecy fulfilled.
quote: Is not proof it is faith.
quote: Believe me, the last thing I want is for something to be done for me. Typical christian prattle. You have no argument so resort to condescension. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
quote: Not if proof has not been given. That would be silly. Various posters have rebutted your explanations for Isaiah. Therefore, you resorted to the old "if you accept Jesus you will see the proof" BS.I guess none of us should be surprised. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
quote: Not really on topic is it?Start a new thread and we can hash it out. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
quote: The only thing you have to prove this is the bible.
quote: Same as I said above. You can not use something to prove itself. There has to be some objective, external evidence to prove something. ANything else is just relying on faith. It is ok for you to do so, but don't expect others to.
quote: What bets do I have to hedge? Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
You are no longer even arguing the OP. You are preaching. If you want to preach you should go someplace else. Preaching is not something that is usually accepted here.
Any chance you starting a thread on a Heliocentric Solar System? You seemed really excited to discuss it here.
quote: First of all, I don't think that is what the saying means. If you use that expression you are implying that I have something to lose if I do not follow your argument. Second of all, Jewish people believing the prophecy or not is only a part of the argument against Isaiah being prophetic. Please do not misrepresent what I have said in previous posts. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
quote: Oh now you are going to quote mine me. Yippeee!!!!
quote: Believe me, the last thing I want is for something to be done for me. As I have stated many times I am not going to accept your interpretations blindly you need to back them with something other than "I am right".
quote: If there is no proof why the hell should I believe you?
quote: You really should know your audience. I think the Jesus Seminar is a joke. I am an atheist.
quote: Something that isn't vague or open too countless interpretaqtions. In other words Isaiah can never be considered a fulfilled prophecy. As has been shown in this thread it is too vague and there are to many parts of it that Jesus doesn't fit, or you have to do linguistic gymnastics for him to fit. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Nope.
He needs to respond to the criticisms of his interpretations that this is a fulfilled prophecy. He repeats the same old things without addressing the criticsims in a meaningful manner. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
quote: How righteous and damn condescending of you.
quote: Right??? Right? CHristianity, or at least your version, can not be criticized? You self-righteous. It aint worth getting banned.
quote: Your belief in certain aspects of some fantastical supernatural entitities supposed word does not qualify you to determine the universality of prophecy. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
quote: The evidence seems overwhelming. What proof do you have to back up your assertions? Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Again, I need to ask. Can you quite your preaching and try to defend your previous assertions.
Your fundie website had no business being posted on the forum. It does nothing to bolster your argument. It does show that your true interest in coming here is to preach ABEWhy is it that fundie websites all look like they were designed on AOL 10 years ago? Edited by Theodoric, : Editorial comment Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
quote: Just because you say it doesn't make it true. Present the evidence.
quote: Just because you say it doesn't make it true. Present the evidence.
quote: Present the evidence. That is what you do. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
Preach to proclaim or make known by sermon
Sermon a discourse for the purpose of religious instruction or exhortation, esp. one based on a text of Scripture and delivered by a member of the clergy as part of a religious service. Preaching and a sermon are not how you should validate your positions. Especially, when in a discussion with skeptics.
quote: Do you even read the challenges people have made to you? They seem pretty enthusiastic to me. Or do you discount them because they challenge your superstitions? I like how you use your christianist buzzword "proclaim". Classic and typical. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
So based on your reply to my request for evidence. You have none? I sure don't see any in your reply to me.
Remember extra-biblical evidence for the life and death of this Jesus guy. I really don't understand what your last post even said. Just random sentences spouting christianist dogma. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
You are the one that brought up extra biblical support for your arguments.
Don't play the game that you can say anything and not back it up just because it is a bible study room. You are the one making the assertions. Either back them up, or admit that all you have are your beliefs. I can respect the fact that you believe it just because you believe, but dont try to spin a conversation. When you make an assertion or a claim you can either back it up or retract it. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9207 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.4 |
quote: If not then what else are we supposed to accept as evidence of prophecy fulfillment? Your word? Other passages in the bible? Have you not been reading this thread? There needs to be some sort of evidence or support outside of the bible in order for you to realistically claim that there is a fulfillment of a biblical prophecy. No preaching, no lame excuses, no PRATTS, like Josephus, Pliny(I have never seen it written as Pliney) or Phlegon. Give us some sort of evidence. Anything. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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