Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 59 (9164 total)
3 online now:
Newest Member: ChatGPT
Post Volume: Total: 916,929 Year: 4,186/9,624 Month: 1,057/974 Week: 16/368 Day: 16/11 Hour: 0/0


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Seashells on tops of mountains.
Hyroglyphx
Inactive Member


Message 201 of 343 (513414)
06-28-2009 3:36 PM
Reply to: Message 196 by traste
06-26-2009 8:57 PM


Re: hi, first post
Ringo writes: There were mountains before the flood. The question would be: How did seashells get to the tops of those mountains (in multiple layers
My reply: Are mountains stable in their shapes?
Stable in their shapes? I don't even know what that means.
There should be a good explanation for why mollusks were found on mountains. Mountains weren't always there because they were geologically formed, right? Earthquakes occur forming mountains of earth by pushing up multiple layers of strata that was once a few feet above sea level. The mounds calcify and become what is known now as mountains. All the sediment and the shells went with them during the process of subduction. Seashells on mountaintops are the end product. The end.
Edited by Hyroglyphx, : No reason given.

"Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear." Thomas Jefferson

This message is a reply to:
 Message 196 by traste, posted 06-26-2009 8:57 PM traste has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 202 by Minnemooseus, posted 06-28-2009 5:14 PM Hyroglyphx has replied
 Message 205 by Dr Adequate, posted 06-29-2009 11:43 AM Hyroglyphx has replied

  
Hyroglyphx
Inactive Member


Message 203 of 343 (513506)
06-29-2009 9:53 AM
Reply to: Message 202 by Minnemooseus
06-28-2009 5:14 PM


Re: Your geologic concepts are rather flawed
Various tectonic processes cause the uplift of mountains. Earthquakes may well be a byproduct, but are not really the cause.
I was breaking this down for someone who may not clearly understand.
Actually, the limestone sediment was formed in the marine environment, largely biogeneticly. In other words, the limestone (calcium carbonate) of the rock itself is produced by organisms.
Limestone is just decayed coral that has hardened over time. It has to be first out of the water to be limestone.
Although there may well be related subduction activity, tectonic uplift is not subduction.
I'm just speaking in generalities about the overall tectonic process that allows for mountains to come in to being. I'm just explaining how seashells can get on to a mountain, not writing a technical thesis on tectonics.
Obviously the implicit undertones were that seashells got there because of the Flood. I'm just clarifying for him other options he needs to consider before ruling out anything other than a worldwide flood.

"Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear." Thomas Jefferson

This message is a reply to:
 Message 202 by Minnemooseus, posted 06-28-2009 5:14 PM Minnemooseus has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 204 by Dr Adequate, posted 06-29-2009 11:38 AM Hyroglyphx has not replied

  
Hyroglyphx
Inactive Member


Message 207 of 343 (513599)
06-30-2009 8:34 AM
Reply to: Message 205 by Dr Adequate
06-29-2009 11:43 AM


Re: hi, first post
Really, get a geology textbook, read it, and until then maintain a discreet silence.
It pains me to see someone on the evolution side of the argument being as ignorant as a creationist. Stop it. My advice to you would be the same as my advice to them: shut up, go away, and learn something.
Oh, hello... Pleasure to meet you too! Thanks for the warm welcome to EvC, Doctor. It sure is swell to meet so many wonderful and learned people here, such as yourself!

"Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear." Thomas Jefferson

This message is a reply to:
 Message 205 by Dr Adequate, posted 06-29-2009 11:43 AM Dr Adequate has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 213 by Dr Adequate, posted 07-01-2009 6:55 AM Hyroglyphx has replied

  
Hyroglyphx
Inactive Member


Message 214 of 343 (513720)
07-01-2009 8:22 AM
Reply to: Message 213 by Dr Adequate
07-01-2009 6:55 AM


Re: Apologies
I was unnecessarily brusque. I'm sorry.
No hard feelings. It is kind of you to rectify it. I suppose I should remember that you've been here longer and see countless morons come in here on a daily basis. After awhile that grates on nerves and eventually we can all become less patient with imbecility.
You should still try to learn some geology before trying to teach others about it.
Geology has never been a strong suit of mine. Too disinterested in it, I guess. I was just trying to give the guy the basic gist about how shells could be on mountaintops.
Though I would like to ask what was wrong with subduction as opposed to uplift? Don't you need subduction to happen before any uplift occurs?

"Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear." Thomas Jefferson

This message is a reply to:
 Message 213 by Dr Adequate, posted 07-01-2009 6:55 AM Dr Adequate has not replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 215 by Minnemooseus, posted 07-02-2009 12:53 AM Hyroglyphx has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024