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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6504 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
There are gay Christians for one thing.
And regardless of what the bible says about the consequences of homosexuality the fact is it has a heritable component...simple as that... funny..I was not even debating the morality of homosexuality but trying to correct Crashfrogs statement about a gay gene...and as a result I get a creationist outing party as to their lack of knowledge about genetics...given the complete illogic of A Christians last rant maybe I should post a soup recipe and see what other subject he/she has not clue about.
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 764 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
The Bible blatantly states that being homosexual is an abomination to the Lord.
Don't forget catfish and shrimp. And crawdads.
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
And wearing two different kinds of cloth together.
And not travelling 100 yards or so outside of town when you have to take a crap. ------------------"God's watchin' me do number two? Oh, man! I'm a sinner and God's a pervert." -Chris Griffin [This message has been edited by Dan Carroll, 08-20-2003]
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A_Christian Inactive Member |
Mammuthus:
Sir, I believe that a murderer can be a Christian or can becomea Christian. That doesn't mean that a murder wasn't committed or that it suddenly became OK. The very same is true for a homosexual. The act doesn't take onrighteousness because the person is or becomes a Christian. However, the indivdual recognizes that he is living in error and is trying to change with GOD's help. The act isn't OK and lives still can be ruined by sin. Mr. Jack: You need to remember what it was like being an adolescent and goingthrough puberty. You need to set aside the attitude and discover alittle common sense. Dan Carroll: Jesus Christ fulfilled ALL the requirements of the LAW. Christiansare bound by only 2 principles. Love the LORD your GOD with all your heart, might, soul and love your neighbor as yourself. Who are YOUR neighbors?
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
quote: So... it doesn't matter if a Christian is a homosexual, or has an abortion, or uses birth control, etc, etc? As long as they love God and their neighbor? Cool. But wait... in the same post you tell Mammuthus that a Christian can't be a homosexual, because it's breaking God's rules. So I guess loving God and loving your neighbor isn't enough? Okay, then why don't you bury your poop a hundred yards outside of town?
quote: I haven't met the ones who just moved in, but last year I had a crazed lunatic who was always cleaning his rifle, and a hairy weirdo who re-read "Lolita" one too many times for my taste. Good guys. We used to go to four-dollar pitcher night at the Cove together. [This message has been edited by Dan Carroll, 08-20-2003]
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A_Christian Inactive Member |
Dan Carroll:
You need to read the story of the Good Samaritan. It is found inLuke chapter 10 verses 25-37. I didn't say that it is OK to be a homosexual or a murderer. I said that it is possible for one to be a Christian and sin. However, ultimatly only GOD knows a person's heart and yes, sin ALWAYS has repercussions----both for the sinner and those around him. God does say in His Word that by their works one may see a fellowChristian (see Galatians, chapter 5, verses 17-26. Here we have a comparison of works of the flesh and those of the spirit. This is what Christians are to use as signs of TRUE spirituality and godly growth. To live an excuse is no excuse.
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
Okay. So why are you condemning homosexuals when you don't travel 100 yards outside the city to poop? Remember, to live an excuse is no excuse.
If I'm not mistaken, he who is without sin is supposed to cast the first stone. And considering that the punishment for breaking the laws in Leviticus is death, you can't really say that the 100-yard mad dash to the bathroom is less important than homosexuality. You can't have it both ways. Either a strict adherence to God's commands is required, or it isn't. According to your own definitions on this forum, your pooping habits mean you are not a true Christian. [This message has been edited by Dan Carroll, 08-20-2003]
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A_Christian Inactive Member |
You're not to have any other gods but GOD.
Sex can be a god and is in the case of the homosexual, as the sex has NOTHING to do with either procreation nor marriage...
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
And you are not to poop inside city limits or you must be put to death. If you are not obeying God's laws, but you are still calling yourself a Christian, who are you to say that another person can't do likewise?
I'd like a direct answer, please. As for "nothing to do with marriage," it's largely Christian fundies keeping homosexuals from getting married. Can't blame them for your actions. Regardless... why does sex that has nothing to do with procreation or marriage qualify as a god? Again, I'd like direct answers to my questions.
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 764 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
Sex can be a god and is in the case of the
That makes it a god, huh? I would have thought it was more like a recreational activity. Watching football on TV has nothing to do with procreation or marriage, either. Does that make all who watch it idolaters?homosexual, as the sex has NOTHING to do with either procreation nor marriage... And doesn't that commandment say "no other gods before me?" Islam is the religion that says there's only one of 'em, isn't it?
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1496 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Well I feel that I dont need to support what I said, its obvious. I dont think its hereditary either. Yeah, it's obviously wrong. We've presented evidence that homosexuality has a component that can only be explained through heredity. Are you just going to ignore this? You can't chalk it up to the family because we've done separated-at-birth twin studies that show that if your identical twin - whom you've never ever met - is gay, there's a big chance you will be too.
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Brian Member (Idle past 4988 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
Hi Dan,
As for "nothing to do with marriage," it's largely Christian fundies keeping homosexuals from getting married. Can't blame them for your actions. I think that there was recently a homosexual marrige in a church in California? Do you know anything about that? Brian.
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Dan Carroll Inactive Member |
I didn't know, no. Which sect?
I know the Episcopalian church has been tossing around the idea of gay marriage. Which would be hysterically funny, because it will prevent Congress from defining marriage as between man and woman. After all, Congress cannot make any law which will prevent free practice of religion...
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Brian Member (Idle past 4988 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
I have a vague recollection of it, I may be mistaken but I will look into it. There's reference to a gay marriage here Canoe.Com
I am pretty positive that there have been a few gay marriages in some churches, I was discussing the possibility that Jesus was gay on another forum a while ago, but I got banned LOL, so I couldnt access the site to read the follow ups! I will have a look tomorrow and get back to you, unless someone else posts confirmation of gay couples beingmarried in a church. Brian.
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Agent Uranium [GPC] Inactive Member |
Yes... I would hope they'd worry more about paedophilia in their ranks prior to condemning homosexual bishops, priests, etc. ------------------
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