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:æ:  Suspended Member (Idle past 7214 days) Posts: 423 Joined: |
A_Christian writes:
So then you're NOT a creationist?
This isn'tthe world that GOD created. A_Christian writes:
From your statements, I can deduce that you must not believe your God to be omnipotent nor omniscient since you assert that events happen against His will. Is this true? If my deduction is inaccurate, then these statements of yours are false.
Can a heterosexual blame GOD for making him anadulterer or lusting fornicator? No, God didn't MAKE man to sin. A_Christian writes:
It is nothing of the sort. I know plenty of homosexual life-partners who display deeper love for eachother than many heterosexual couples. I can't say that I've ever seen a gay man with a black eye given to him by his partner, though I've seen plenty of women abused by their husbands.
Homosexuality is an attempt to ruin & destroy real L O V E. Thekind of LOVE that causes one man to hug and kiss the cheek of another whose dad just died. The kind of LOVE that says, I want nothing (and takes nothing) and would cause one to give his life to save his friend(s). A_Christian writes:
No, the pressure from the homosexual community to recognize homosexual marriage is an attempt to bring that aspect of society out of the dark ages from whence came your religion.
Homosexuality attempts to bring marriage DOWN to its level. A_Christian writes:
How in the world do you infer THAT from it? Project much?
Itsuggests that a guy simply wants to bang a girl and thrust his tongue down her throat. A_Christian writes:
Homosexuals express and receive this type of love all the time.
Real LOVE says, you're safe with me, I will nothurt you. I want what is BEST for you. I will protect you. A_Christian writes:
Didn't you just say that it wasn't about who is in charge? Why then did you go on to make several declarative statments establishing a ranking heirarchy? According to your initial assertion, we should disregard your subsequent statements. (Don't worry, I'm more-or-less doing that already)
It isn't about who is on top and who is stronger and who is in charge.GOD is in charge and the man is accountable to GOD and woman is to HOLD the man accountable to GOD through her prayers and submission. A_Christian writes:
Your opinion is noted. Thankfully, we do not have to accept your opinion, and frankly, it reveals more about your ignorance than anything.
Homosexuality isn't "gay" at all. That is just a lie to hide thetruth. Homosexuality is anthing but gay, it is horrible and a real pain in the butt! A_Christian writes:
Which God are we talking about again? I can't seem to tell. From your opening statements in this post, it seems you're not speaking of the God of the Bible, or the one commonly believed by Christians. There is another example of an abused body partthat GOD intended for another purpose. BTW - Did this God of yours intend for us to receive herniated intervertebral disks as a consequence of the imperfect function of the vertical spinal column?
A_Christian writes:
Again, you must not be a Christian creationist if you do not believe that God imparted out genetics unto us (Where would Adam get his genes if not from God?). If you DO believe that, and that thereby humans have been imparted with defective or faulty genes (according to you), it should be this God of yours apologizing to us. Don't blame GOD for yourgenes, ask GOD to forgive you and make HIM LORD of your life and not S E X. Also, while I certainly enjoy sex, it is not "LORD" of my life. There is no "LORD" of my life but me. Blessings, ::
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:æ:  Suspended Member (Idle past 7214 days) Posts: 423 Joined: |
A_Christian writes:
Perhaps, yet it also reveals firm grasp on rational thinking on my part.
What you THINK reveals your own ignorance of the Bible, GOD, andspiritual matters and my personality in general. A_Christian writes:
...and the stereotype continues to propogate...
I am a Fundamentalist, Bible believing Christian. A_Christian writes:
Dan Carroll already provided you a stellar example of your own internally inconsistent statements.
I believe thata literal interpetation is to be accepted where terms such as "LIKE" or "AS" are not applied in the text. A_Christian writes:
I'll assume you meant "serpent" and not Satan in order to honor your insistence on literalism. Regardless, in a perfect universe no possibility for imperfection can exist lest it was not perfect to begin with. You're special pleading in the case of the serpent. A "perfect" serpent would not tempt Eve.
I believe that GOD Created a PERFECT UNIVERSE (free of sin andcorruption). I Believe GOD CREATED Adam & Eve perfect and without sin. I believe they were tempted (by Satan) and FELL from that perfect estate. A_Christian writes:
I suspect that you believe that without sin no death would exist. Is that the case? I believe that GOD's perfect world was given over to Satan and thatperfection became corruption and that we are born in sin are dead both spiritually and our body is dying physically. In addition, you failed to address the incompatibility of your assertions with the omni-capabilities presumed of your deity from my last post. Nothing happens against the will of an omnipotent and omniscient being.
A_Christian writes:
My statements simply compared you to the majority of Christians I've encountered. Most of them hold that God created this universe. You stated that you didn't believe this, therefore I reasonably deduced that you are not a Christian according to the common definition of the term.
It isn't my place to say you are not a Christian so don't judge mewithout Scriptural back-up. A_Christian writes:
This is easily falsified by tracing back Ancient Egyptian history which continues uninterupted for nearly 10,000 years or more into the past. (Of course, I'm assuming you hold to a belief in a 6000 year old earth, and that the flood happened 2500 years before present) Actually, the story of a global flood was falsified geologically some 100 years ago by Chrisitian geologists who set out to seek evidence for it.
I might add that I also believe thatThere was a WORLD WIDE FLOOD and that NOAH was told of GOD to build an ark. A_Christian writes:
Is that a veiled threat of fire and brimstone? I honestly hope it is. I haven't had a good laugh at Christian scare tactics in a long time. I'm very thankful he listened to GOD, unlike some.And Christ is LORD of my life unlike yourself. I pray you reconsider before too long... Blessings, ::
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:æ:  Suspended Member (Idle past 7214 days) Posts: 423 Joined: |
A_Christian writes:
Why would I need to that if you insist it should be read literally? Doesn't it literally say "serpent"? Where does Genesis literally say "Satan"?
Get yourself a STRONGS Concordance and look up "Serpant". A_Christian writes:
Then why would you or I need a concordance? Is the concordance part of the original Bible texts?
Remember, I use the Bible and not my opinion to understand theScriptures A_Christian writes:
Not at all. I believe hard evidence excavated by modern archaeologists and the various independant dating methods that place them in history exactly in accordance with written Egyptian history over an account which shows no evidence of ever having occurred as you describe it.
I see you believe the word of Egyptian Myth over the Word Of GOD. A_Christian writes:
Maybe, but thankfully the Pharoahs didn't write the histories, and we can corroborate them with present day excavation and independant and precisely calibrated dating methods.
Hey, if Nixon could lie----I'm sure Pharoahs did too... A_Christian writes:
Supply the evidence of which you speak.
Oh, and scientifically we now know that the Sphinx was once totallysubmerged A_Christian writes:
Yeah and the Noachian flood tale reads a lot like a rip-off of the Gilgamesh story. So what? and historically the myths surrounding Osirus sound a lotlike a FLOOD tale.... Blessings, ::
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:æ:  Suspended Member (Idle past 7214 days) Posts: 423 Joined: |
I said:
quote:I intended to say "...that the flood happened 4500 years before present" as is commonly held by the likes of AiG. That would place the flood at 2500 BC. EDIT: LOL. I suppose I should correct my symbology a bit too. Instead typing "4500 ybp" I should type "4500 ybp" lest I give the impression that the flood might have happened up to 4500 years in the future. D'OH!!! Blessings, :: [This message has been edited by ::, 08-22-2003]
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:æ:  Suspended Member (Idle past 7214 days) Posts: 423 Joined: |
A_Christian writes:
:::thundering applause and cheers:::: Dan: I thought that you were smarter then that. I guess not. Well done! Good show! Hear! Hear! Seriously A_Christian, reducing your only comments to insults when your beliefs are challenged will not get you far in convincing others to hold your beliefs too. Blessings, ::
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:æ:  Suspended Member (Idle past 7214 days) Posts: 423 Joined: |
A_Christian writes:
Neither is it silly to fear the composition of sentences which contain vowels if one read's Mammathus' posts and believes him to be the sole infallible channel between us and the giant four-assed galactic monkey.
Not silly, if one reads the Bible and believes it to be the inspiredwritten word of GOD. A_Christian writes:
We're all shakin' in our boots...
I am glad you and your wife are presently happy; however, it will be of small counsolation when bad times come (and they always do) andthe end draws near (and it will). A_Christian writes:
I have hope for a hereafter, too. We're not too different in that regard. My hoped-for model, however, doesn't include eternal damnation for roughly half of the entire populous of the planet earth. Why would I hope for that? I'll still have joy because I have hope, I have something tolook forward to----even at deaths door... Blessings, ::
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