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Bolder-dash
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Message 391 of 1229 (618467)
06-03-2011 12:23 PM
Reply to: Message 387 by cavediver
06-03-2011 11:14 AM


Re: Not right about anything relevant.
Re: Not right about anything relevant.
Shouldn't that be way beneth someone with the education and experience you claim to have?
Ooh, is that an accusation that I have lied, ICANT? Really?
You struggle a bit with the complicated parts of the language, huh? You know like understanding when one is calling someone a liar as opposed to when one is calling someone a jerk. Its a tough distinction so its certainly understandable why it could trip you up-both have 4 letters afterall. Plus, who has time to understand sentences when writing numbers all day, right?
1 li@r <= 1 jerk

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Message 392 of 1229 (618469)
06-03-2011 12:26 PM
Reply to: Message 391 by Bolder-dash
06-03-2011 12:23 PM


Re: Not right about anything relevant.
Bolder-dash writes:
Re: Not right about anything relevant.
Shouldn't that be way beneth someone with the education and experience you claim to have?
Ooh, is that an accusation that I have lied, ICANT? Really?
You struggle a bit with the complicated parts of the language, huh? You know like understanding when one is calling someone a liar as opposed to when one is calling someone a jerk. Its a tough distinction so its certainly understandable why it could trip you up-both have 4 letters afterall. Plus, who has time to understand sentences when writing numbers all day, right?
1 li@r <= 1 jerk
Before he hijacks yet another thread, can we all just agree to completely ignore Bolder-dash? Don't feed the troll. Especially trolls that are regularly outwitted by month-old gym socks.

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Panda
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Message 393 of 1229 (618471)
06-03-2011 12:32 PM
Reply to: Message 392 by Rahvin
06-03-2011 12:26 PM


Re: Not right about anything relevant.
Rahvin writes:
can we all just agree to completely ignore Bolder-dash?
I can't be bothered to reply to such dull and unimaginative insults.
When even his abusive posts are boring: he has nothing left.

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cavediver
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Message 394 of 1229 (618475)
06-03-2011 12:39 PM
Reply to: Message 392 by Rahvin
06-03-2011 12:26 PM


Re: Not right about anything relevant.
Before he hijacks yet another thread, can we all just agree to completely ignore Bolder-dash? Don't feed the troll. Especially trolls that are regularly outwitted by month-old gym socks.
Look, I've just launched a classic insult at no-nukes, and then this twat turns up to completely ruin the effect. I'd ban him just for that.

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Son
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Message 395 of 1229 (618489)
06-03-2011 1:19 PM
Reply to: Message 376 by ICANT
06-03-2011 10:11 AM


Re: Not right about anything relevant.
The passage you quoted didn't say anything revelant about time dilatation but the paragraph before it says:
quote:
( 2 ) Second-older Doppler shift. A clock moving with respect to an ECIF runs slower
relative to coordinate time in that ECIF than if it were at, rest in the ECIF. This is the
time dilation effect due to the magnitude of the relative velocity, sometimes called the
second-order Doppler effect.
Slice it dice it anyway you want you can't change what it says, just because it doesn't fit your world view.
Of course, you are so used to dishonesty that we shouldn't have been surprised by this sleight of hand. You couldn't have missed that the paper you quoted supported the current theory but despite that, you still quote it as if it supported you for the sole reason that the passage you quoted didn't directly contradict you.

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NoNukes
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Message 396 of 1229 (618492)
06-03-2011 1:35 PM
Reply to: Message 368 by ICANT
06-02-2011 6:56 PM


Re: Not right about anything relevant.
ICANT writes:
Hi NoNukes,
NoNukes writes:
Man's concept of time is the duration between events.
So your definition of time is duration between events.
How do you measure time?
God Bless,
How do you measure duration?
I'll admit to being better at physics than at metaphysics.

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ICANT
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Message 397 of 1229 (618504)
06-03-2011 2:34 PM
Reply to: Message 384 by Taq
06-03-2011 11:04 AM


Re: Not right about anything relevant.
Hi Taq,
Taq writes:
Evidence please. Please show that the duration of events is the same for all inertial frames.
To have a 3 minute boiled egg in any frame it must be boiled 3 minutes.
God Bless,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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ICANT
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Message 398 of 1229 (618508)
06-03-2011 3:00 PM
Reply to: Message 381 by Taq
06-03-2011 10:59 AM


Re: ICANT is not alone
Hi Taq,
Taq writes:
It's called relativity. You know, that thing we have been telling you about in this thread. Your clock ticks at a slower rate when you travel at 0.5c compared to your wife's inertial frame. This is because light HAS TO BE the same speed for all inertial frames. This means that our clocks tick at different rates and our rulers change length in order for light to be the same speed for all observers. A constant speed of light is more than a good idea. It is the law.
"A constant speed of light is more than a good idea. It is the law"
This creates a real problem for your relativity.
If the speed of light can not be changed and I am travling at exactly 93,000 mps (I got cruise control on) it will take exactly 1460.97 solar days to complete the trip to travel 2 light years.
So where is the math wrong?
God Bless,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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ICANT
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Message 399 of 1229 (618509)
06-03-2011 3:05 PM
Reply to: Message 387 by cavediver
06-03-2011 11:14 AM


Re: Not right about anything relevant.
Hi cavediver,
PRAISES BE TO GOD EINSTEIN.
Einstein bless cavediver and open his eyes that he might see.

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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cavediver
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Posts: 4129
From: UK
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Message 400 of 1229 (618510)
06-03-2011 3:15 PM
Reply to: Message 399 by ICANT
06-03-2011 3:05 PM


Re: Not right about anything relevant.
Oh, ICANT, you have seen through our obscuring mist and revealed the truth that we have so sought to hide: that none of us physicists since Einstein have a clue as to what this relativity is about. We merely esteem Einstein beyond all others and simply hold his ideas and theories as truth. What is terrifying to us is when amateurs with barely any training are able to tie us in knots with their own mathematical chicanery, as you have done here. To be honest, I would much rather retire from this thread before you do further damage to my credibility.

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fearandloathing
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Posts: 990
From: Burlington, NC, USA
Joined: 02-24-2011


Message 401 of 1229 (618511)
06-03-2011 3:36 PM
Reply to: Message 400 by cavediver
06-03-2011 3:15 PM


Re: Give up now
cavediver writes:
Oh, ICANT, you have seen through our obscuring mist and revealed the truth that we have so sought to hide: that none of us physicists since Einstein have a clue as to what this relativity is about. We merely esteem Einstein beyond all others and simply hold his ideas and theories as truth. What is terrifying to us is when amateurs with barely any training are able to tie us in knots with their own mathematical chicanery, as you have done here. To be honest, I would much rather retire from this thread before you do further damage to my credibility.
I knew you bunch of rotten " Time Dilationist" were lying to me!! Damn scurvy pig-fuckers, you all should be caged up with angry badgers.
Edited by fearandloathing, : No reason given.

"I hate to advocate the use of drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they always worked for me." - Hunter S. Thompson
Ad astra per aspera
Nihil curo de ista tua stulta superstitione.

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ICANT
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Message 402 of 1229 (618513)
06-03-2011 4:01 PM
Reply to: Message 396 by NoNukes
06-03-2011 1:35 PM


Re: Not right about anything relevant.
Hi NoNukes,
NoNukes writes:
How do you measure duration?
Good question.
I use the concept that man came up with called time to measure duration. Man divided the solar day into 24 hours of 60 minutes each of 60 seconds each and several smaller divisions.
Man then created mechanical tools that could represent those divisions call time.
So if I want to know the duration it takes a man to run 100 yards I use what is called a stop watch. When the man starts I start the watch and when he crosses the finish line I stop the watch and look at the dial which displays the duration of that event.
God Bless,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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ICANT
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Message 403 of 1229 (618514)
06-03-2011 4:06 PM
Reply to: Message 400 by cavediver
06-03-2011 3:15 PM


Re: Not right about anything relevant.
Hi cavediver,
cavediver writes:
To be honest, I would much rather retire from this thread before you do further damage to my credibility.
Why not just show where the math is wrong instead.
God Bless,

"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

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NoNukes
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Message 404 of 1229 (618517)
06-03-2011 4:55 PM
Reply to: Message 399 by ICANT
06-03-2011 3:05 PM


Re: Not right about anything relevant.
ICANT writes:
Hi cavediver,
PRAISES BE TO GOD EINSTEIN.
Einstein bless cavediver and open his eyes that he might see.
ICANT,
It seems a bit strange that you think others are fools because they subscribe to a tested, verified, theory, while you yourself accept anything that Gaasenbeek, Pari Spolter, and others say in the face of clear evidence that they are wrong.
"You reflect scarcely any of the visible light incident on your surface", says the pot to the kettle.

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NoNukes
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Message 405 of 1229 (618519)
06-03-2011 5:01 PM
Reply to: Message 403 by ICANT
06-03-2011 4:06 PM


Re: Not right about anything relevant.
ICANT writes:
Hi cavediver,
cavediver writes:
To be honest, I would much rather retire from this thread before you do further damage to my credibility.
Why not just show where the math is wrong instead.
God Bless,
I offered to do this for you. Why not accept the offer I made in Message 357?

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