Information's role in evolution.Should we put it more in the picture?

Epigenetics can in some cases producee permanent and inhertable changes. In HGT mutations can take part, but also information can pave the way to new combinations that tend to be useful.-My 'ramblings' can be put under falsifibility procedures , where your "assertions" can not.Your Theory is doomed tolpass the falsification test only when my theory fails it.It is nice to hear that information reaches to the cell and is handled by it , through DNA sequence. Its a good start we agree at.Edited by zi ko, : No reason given.Edited by zi ko, : No reason given.

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Information: It is time its undeservedly neglectet powerful role to evolution to be restored.

Iquote from Wikipedia:
'These changes may remain through cell divisions for the remainder of the cell's life and may also last for multiple generations
In HGT mutations can take part, but also information can pave the way to new combinations that tend to be useful. ...Although epigenetics in multicellular organisms is generally thought to be a mechanism involved in differentiation, with epigenetic patterns "reset" when organisms reproduce, there have been some observations of transgenerational epigenetic inheritance (e.g., the phenomenon of paramutation observed in maize). Although most of these multigenerational epigenetic traits are gradually lost over several generations, the possibility remains that multigenerational epigenetics could be another aspect to evolution and adaptation.....Epigenetic changes have also been observed to occur in response to environmental exposurefor example, mice given some dietary supplements have epigenetic changes affecting expression of the agouti gene, which affects their fur color, weight, and propensity to develop cancer.More than 100 cases of transgenerational epigenetic inheritance phenomena have been reported in a wide range of organisms, including prokaryotes, plants, and animals. 'HGT is random with respect to fitness as exemplified by ERV's found in the human genome. My theory about empathy ca be tested as right or wrong so the theory can be substantiated or not. Your randommness theory in evolution as the only way, is a belief , so it is not falsfiable, and so incoplete . When Darwin says that he shares in some cases Lamarcks ideas, you can't mean that he meant he shared Lamarck's ideas of natural selection!--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Information: It is time its undeservedly neglectet powerful role to evolution to be restored.

I suggest an article by James Shapiro THE THIRD WAY (wikipedia)Nobody says that mutations can not be detrimental in spite of 'information function driven evolution'.
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[qs] "I don't denay natural selection. But i don't think is the only way. "Then demonstrate, WITH DATA, what the other way is. "The THIRD WAY.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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The above mentioned know how environment CAN affect species evolution , you can learn from them.Perhaps you can legitimally criticise only my propose of empathy's role in evolution.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Edited by zi ko, : No reason given.

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--------------------------------------------------------------------------------Re: Information's role
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You can find the data in J. Shapiro's THIRD WAY.(wikipedia).Edited by zi ko, : No reason given.

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1. If in mean time a mutation happens there is permanent genotypic and phenotypic change.
2.Epigenetic changes accumulating and lasting for 3-5 generations push organism for mutations at a special direction, or /and increasing mutation rate and consequently,if we stick to randomn mutations, to" chose" the beneficial ones This choosing is coordinated by genome environment. So the result isin any case, function driven evolution. Sticking in randomness becomes an act of plain belief, as it cannot be proved by testing.
3. Same information passed empathecly over many generations on widespread species numbers it is propable to have special affect, maybe permanent, on genome. Nobody knows for sure that this new notion is wright or wrong. Research will show. Blind belief to one or other direction doesn' help. As my theory does not exclude randomn mutations it can go along with mathematicians 'who argue that, if every mutation were really random and had to be tested against the environment for selection or rejection, there would not have been enough time to evolve the extremely complex biochemical networks and regulatory mechanisms found in organisms today. ( Barbara Wright).--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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By the time information's role and mechanisms will establish, the only thing i have to prove is the existance of empathy.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Information: It is time its undeservedly neglectet powerful role to evolution to be restored.

It is an example( from wikipedia) in how epigenetically acquired traits are incorporated to DNA. 'Choosing' and 'deciding' is according to Shapiro are intergrated functions of bacteria and higher organisms. This claim is made by a scientist. Where are the data to disclaim this?

You ignore my arguments. I say Darwin himself and others contemporary to us scientists share Lamarcks wiews on evolution, who obviously thought his evolution theory based o information from environment in terms differrent than natural selection , Darwin did not always talk about evolution strictly in terms of natural selection and mutations.

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I don't mean this type of information, but direct information, as that it takes place in epigenetics and asLamarck had thought it.Edited by zi ko, : No reason given.

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Information: It is time its undeservedly neglectet powerful role to evolution to be restored.

I don't nean this type of information, but direct information, as that it takes place in epigenetics and as Lamarck had thought of it..

Isaid Darwin and other contemporary scientists.I make the question more precise and i think it is very crucial to our discussion:1. Do you think that epigenetic biologists ACCEPT OR NOT that environment affects genome in a wide sense?2.If yes, by which mechanism? By neural system or other wise?
( we are talking about eucaryotes).I hope for a clear answer.
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Natural selection selects after genotype (by mutations) or phenotype (by paramutation ect) change. I mean direct effect.Empathy is a type of information connected with organism survival.It is usefull to life and i believe nature in its economy wouldn't let it to be wasted. Also nature loves continuity and empathy is an evolutional continuant of information.Empathy acting over long time periods on same genomic place can have a permanent effect . Edited by zi ko, : No reason given.