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Author Topic:   Why should religion get a free pass?
Larni
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Message 91 of 112 (648958)
01-19-2012 2:26 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by New Cat's Eye
05-12-2008 3:31 PM


Sorry about not replying. I did reply to your second post, though.
But they are 'off limits' to challenges because they cannot be falsified. So how do you prove them wrong
But if I was to say the fairies in my toilet say that when I die I will become part of the underground kingdom that would be equally unfalsifiable but people would say in a very firm voice 'don't be stupid'.
Why not so for beleiveing that when we die we will ascend to heaven of descend to hell?

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

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Larni
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Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 92 of 112 (648960)
01-19-2012 2:32 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by Tangle
01-19-2012 12:27 PM


Yeah, my wife and I brave Chris Moyles when 'thought for the day'.
It is always something like "In this time of economic crisis people crave materialist goods. What would Jesus say?".
Gives me the right 'ump.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

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Larni
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From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


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Message 93 of 112 (648962)
01-19-2012 2:34 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by NoNukes
01-19-2012 12:50 PM


Re: What would constitute not getting a free pass?
Do we go out of our way to ridicule our co-workers who believe in ghosts or von Daniken conspiracy theories, or do we largely just leave them alone as long as they don't leave their work for us to do?
I'll be honest and say I take them to task.
My wife hates it.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

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Larni
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Message 97 of 112 (649006)
01-19-2012 6:28 PM
Reply to: Message 96 by New Cat's Eye
01-19-2012 4:47 PM


Honestly, I suppose: popularity and tradition.
I think it is different over here. If you have strong religious beliefs it is normally kept quiet as it is often looked on as strange. At least in the circles I move in.
When I do come across someone of faith I try and engage them in lively debate.
My wife hates it.
Edited by Larni, : Stupid iPhone

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

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Larni
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From: Liverpool
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Message 102 of 112 (649048)
01-20-2012 3:25 AM
Reply to: Message 99 by hooah212002
01-19-2012 7:10 PM


I think it must be a bit different over here. Anyone who firmly witnesses their xian beliefs gets funny looks and is given a wide birth.
A bit like how one might treat some who really believes in astrology or mediums: someone not quite 'with it'.
Saying "I don't believe in god" nets far less negativity.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

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Larni
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Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 104 of 112 (649052)
01-20-2012 4:43 AM
Reply to: Message 103 by Tangle
01-20-2012 4:31 AM


Recoiling in horror.
I explained that I was an atheist so no. She took a step backwards grabbed her child and scurried off. Mediaeval behaviour but not, unfortunately, a one off.
I remember my dad say about people and religion "I don't care if people are religious, just ass long as they don't ram it down my throat".
I wonder if fundies think that atheist want to ram their lack of belief down the fundies throat or, that atheism is catching and that's why the woman recoiled from you?

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

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Larni
Member
Posts: 4000
From: Liverpool
Joined: 09-16-2005


Message 110 of 112 (649102)
01-20-2012 1:35 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by Tangle
01-20-2012 11:32 AM


until the rumours spread about him getting on his knees to pray with Bush before launching into Iraq. The Catholic baptism put the hat on it.
That made me reall want to punch him in his stupid crying face.
Making such decisions based on religion is a real cu ts trick.

The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53
The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 286
Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134

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