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Author Topic:   The US Gov't is Guilty of Murder
New Cat's Eye
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Message 296 of 318 (673159)
09-14-2012 3:59 PM
Reply to: Message 295 by NoNukes
09-14-2012 3:53 PM


Re: What's Good For The Goose....
Because, for example, the US has already tried the person in question for the attack and has decided that reducing him a couple of levels in rank is the appropriate punishment.
Or maybe the US does not consider the attack to be a crime at all.
The US would never extradite an American born citizen to Iran regardless of what he has done.
And which target of a drone strike does that correspond to?

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Message 303 of 318 (673555)
09-20-2012 10:17 AM
Reply to: Message 301 by Straggler
09-20-2012 6:20 AM


Re: Moral Calculus
On what basis are you convinced that those undertaking the attacks are doing the necessary moral calculus?
Have you seen that movie Charlie Wilson's War?
There's so much covert shit going on, none of us have a clue as to what's really happening over there. There's a lot of calculus happening, probably too much, but whether or not its moral isn't something we're going to figure out here. But the people in charge do have a vested interest in their country (at the least you don't want to work yourself out of a job). You're going to have to trust them at some point. And if not, then you've got to vote someone else in that you do.
Edited by Catholic Scientist, : spelling

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Message 305 of 318 (673560)
09-20-2012 10:33 AM
Reply to: Message 302 by Straggler
09-20-2012 10:17 AM


Re: Immoral Killings
So have you seen that movie?
So having established that immoral killings are taking place the only question left in this thread is whether such killings can legitimately be described as "murder".
Whilst in a legal technical sense the answer is probably "no" I would suggest that in more common parlance the term "murder" is probably quite apt.
I don't really have a problem with that. It kinda cheapens the word "murder" and it also means that a lot of western governments are also "guilty of murder". Its going to be something that every country that goes to war is "guilty" of. So I don't see the point in calling it that.
Why not just reiterate that war is really fucking ugly?
Throwing around emotive words like murder isn't my cup of tea. And it makes people sound like a bitch when they do.

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