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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
The cat is not saying that the fire-spewing part of dragon legends was necessarily based in reality. Its being purely mythical could be the case too. Both are possible.
In some cases pure reason is not enough to establish what is possible and what is impossible. For example, reason can establish that no big bunk creation, universal space expansion and so on are possible at all. Or that both special creation and evolution of death-dodging machines mutating from nothing are not physically possible and so on. That it takes a death-dodging machine to build another one could be deduced from the nature of the phenomenon itself so abiomagic of spontaneous generation or special creation could be understood to be physically impossible. Such details though as whether the dragons possessed a mechanism of spewing and igniting methane is not to be decided by pure reason. For that one would need to meet and see a living dragon in action.
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
Are you dense, Coy? It might be that there are plenty of bones but your classification of them is skewed and your entire chronology is but a fond assumption or there might even be extant specimens of dragons somewhere. I don't know. Crowing like you do there are no bones according to the interpretations of my church so let us bury the issue and declare my priests to be on the right track forever is no good. There is a controversy on the dragons and that is very good and that is to be dragged into the open, discussed and investigated more and more. Your priests are not on the right track at all and if the issue is threatening the demolish the whole neo-darwinian cathedral that is only to be welcomed. Understand?
Edited by Alfred Maddenstein, : No reason given.
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
It's no gaps, Coy Boy. It's glaring contradictions in your crypto-creo case. Either there is the minimum rate of soft tissue decay or there is not. If there is what it is? This is what has to be examined together with the fresh red cells found in the dragon's bones which are supposedly 70 or 170 million years old. As it is your story sounds fishy to the feline and the open creationists are welcome by him to exploit your contradictions and laugh at you for evading them like a little sissy. Whatever their agenda may be, they are handing your arse to you exposing your bollocks consequently cut with the Occham's razor sharply wielded by the feline. They are supposed to be idiotically dogmatic, aren't they? You keep stealing that privilege from them. Why is that? Need the moggy to ram the bollocks down that presumptuous throat?
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
Enjoying making them sly doctorly insinuations, Inadequate? In his early kittenhood the Cheshire was traumatised by Zmei Goryinitch fairy tales, if you insist to know. Zmei Goryinitch is the traditional Russian dragon in case you ignore that. Very scary dinosaur. Spits hell-fire and steals pretty maidens.
Want to address the collagen decay issue? Read that: C-14 Dating
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
Are you saying that the fresh collagen reported in Hell Creek and other dragon bones was a contamination, Inadequate? Whether contamination is possible in principle is not the issue. Of course, it might be possible whatever Libby may say. The issue though I am investigating here is the dragon and not the tiger or any other beast.
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
So if the collagen is as fresh as reported, what is its minimum rate of decay? The rule of necessity is any molecular motion unregulated by the living will and intelligence of death-dodging machines is decay of some sort. All is relative motion of some sort and nothing is ever keeping still. It takes the constant living effort, division of labour, vibrant communication required by the division and so on to combat the death and disintegration. No exceptions. In the light of that, is 70 or 170 million years preservation possible or is it just a miracle believed in your church, Inadequate?
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
It's in the latest Nature, Inadequate. Their estimate is that Lufengosaurus egg nest found and analysed is 190 million years old. They report eggshell fragments, embryo bones and collagen well preserved.
Is all of this really of that age? Your neo-darwinian gurus claim it is. The bible pushers laugh at your gurus and wipe the floor with them in any debate. Now acid dissolves eggshells and like Ecclesiastes rightly noted the passage of time leaves a sour taste. That book is not selling any nonsense like you do. It's all solid thinking. Read what it has to say on the silly simian pretences to measure anything.
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
So, still dancing around the bush and the issue together with Coy Boy, Inadequate? Like a pretty shy girl, dear? It's either that the soft tissues can possibly take 190 million years to not finish decomposing or they can not. The cat's conclusion is that they are bound to rot much faster than that and therefore you and your whole crypto-creo bigbanger lot are greater bullshitters than the bible pushers. Nobody ain't got no slightest clue as to the age of the earth and the rest of chronology and stuff. Just like King Solomon of Ecclesiastes and the feline say. Face it. That's why the simians are currently deserting your sect in droves. The bible pushers at least have some hope on offer for them. What have you got? Nothing apart from the rotting crap off your learned mouth.
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
That is circular, Press. You assume you've measured how long this or that stayed here or there and then your assert that what was inside was preserved according to your assumption that you know the duration.
The cat has only said you have no clue. Understand? Did you hear him measure it as 6000 years old? If not why does your silly baboonish paw put your stupid simian measurements into the Cheshire's mouth? The Earth itself is as likely as not to be trillions of years of intrinsic age. Nobody knows. Understand? The issue here is who or what killed the dragons, not the age of the earth. Otherwise those who propagate beliefs that the entire universe banged from nothing 13.8 billion years ago look very silly patronising any body with similar faith but different figures. The bible pushers at least don't suggest violating the laws of conservation like you crypto-creo lot do.
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
How sure are you about any single one among the string of bald assertions you just shot at the feline, Coy Boy? Dragons and simians missed each other by 65 million years, you say? You missed by a long mile what Ecclesiastes, Pliny and the feline tell you. Do you understand what 65 million years means? It's a very long distance. The only steady reference is the distance travelled by the light signal as compared to the length of your baboonish arm. A lot can happen along that way. Far too far for your grabbing action, in any case.
Now simians eat rice so did dragons as the Indian fellow who studied the composition of their shit reports. How do you explain that, Coy Boy?
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
Blah, blah, blah, Coy Boy. Just google Vandana Prasad and dragon coprolites and you'll get the papers. Not only rice but also oats. Oryza means rice or rice-like, Avena - refers to oats and both figure in the long list of grasses consumed by the Indian dragons according to the composition of their fossilised crap.
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
Translate it into Yawnish yourself, Inadequate. The feline prefers playing with you crypto-creo bigbanger quackademic mice the way he pleases.
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
Well, Vatican. There are nonsensical beliefs galore and there are oceans of pretence to certainty about those beliefs. The firm believers whose name is multitude are easily offended by any doubt expressed. That's why there are so many of so-called trolls. He who has no faith in nonsense never fears any trolls, says the feline. Now be a good boy, Vatican, go to the science section and pontificate a little on how certain you are at what rate the universe expands and what species in it randomly mutate into what exactly and so on.
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
Brian Thomas' beliefs and affiliations are as irrelevant as yours, Coy. Dishonesty? Irrelevant again. They can run a polygraph test on you and Brian to check how sincere your respective beliefs on possible co-existence of simians and dragons or dinosaurs are. That would not help to solve the problem as neither of you may have those beliefs from any first-hand experience. Otherwise, Vandana Prasad is not from Brian's sect at all. The paper just points to the presence of rice or similar grass in dragon's diet. It might undermine a little your certainty about the geological column and the entire chronology but that is all there is to it in the paper. Vandana does not offer any wide-reaching interpretations. Nothing like Michael Cremo does who is another recommended reading for you though coming from a different perspective and so on.
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Alfred Maddenstein Member (Idle past 3997 days) Posts: 565 Joined: |
How do you mean real and unreal science? Are you to decide which is which for the feline, Coy Boy? Is real science only what you and the boys in your choir sing? All the boys in my coy choir, cats should hear and admire? Cremo does not sing all of that so he is unreal science kind of thing? That is not how it goes with the Cheshire. You've got a witness opinion and Cremo got another. You and him got an equal time to state it. No favours you are hungry for are given. Contradictions found, the bollocks cut by the judge. Gives you pain? Tough, sorry. Your list of red herrings you've dragged in here is irrelevant. Contradiction are indeed found in your story. Ouija board, my foot. It is coming down on your head. Address contradictions in your chronology pointed to you and cited by other witnesses, shy girl.
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