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Author Topic:   Scriptural evidence that Jesus is Messiah:
Eliyahu
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Message 297 of 304 (704251)
08-07-2013 12:05 AM
Reply to: Message 292 by kofh2u
08-06-2013 8:07 PM


Re: The truth must and will come out
Yep,...
It doesn't make sense UNLESS you comprehend the WORD i.e.; Truth.
In John 14 Christ explains EXPLICITLY that he personifies Truth, the ideal.
Christ identifies himself as the spirit of Truth facing down the Pharisees and the lies they made out of the Old Testament.
Bs'd
Ripping Tanach texts which have no bearing on the messiah whatsoever, and then presenting them as "messianic prophecies", what they obviously are not, THAT is making lies out of the Tanach.
When the Bible teaches "God is ONE", and then going around telling everybody that God is three, THAT is turning the Bible into a lie.
God's punishment for people who do that, will be severe.
"Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,
who put darkness for light and light for darkness,
who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter."
Isaiah 5:20
WOE TO THOSE WHO CALL THREE ONE AND ONE THREE!!
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In the service of Y-H-W-H,
Eliyahu, light unto the nations
"Hear Israel, Y-H-W-H is our God, Y-H-W-H is ONE!" Deut 6:4
"All the peoples walk each in the name of his god, but as for us; we will walk in the name of Y-H-W-H our God forever and ever!" Micah 4:5
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Eliyahu
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From: Judah
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Message 303 of 304 (704283)
08-08-2013 12:11 AM


If Jesus was resurrected He was the messiah. If Jesus was not resurrected He wasn't regardless of any prophesies.
Bs’d
Why do you think that JC was ressurected?
Even in the New Testament there is NOT ONE SINGLE WITNESS of his resurrection. No man saw him get up from the grave and walk away.
Oh, but he appeared to his disciples. Well, in that case, can you explain to me why nobody recognized him? Look in Luke 24:13-35. This speaks about the men on the road to Emmaus. JC met them, but they didn't recognize him.
The same thing happens in John 20:14; "At this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing there, but she did not realize that it was Jesus. "Woman," he said, "why are you crying? Who is it you are looking for?" Thinking he was the gardener, she said, ... "
She thought JC was the gardener....
John 21:4 "Early in the morning, Jesus stood on the shore, but the disciples did not realize that it was Jesus. He called out to them, ..."
And again they didn't recognize him.
Isn't it strange that they didn't recognize the person with whom they were so close for years?
But the NT gives the answer to that strange phenomena. Look in Mark 16:12-13 "Afterward Jesus appeared IN A DIFFERENT FORM to two of them while they were walking in the country."
So it was a person "in a different form" from the previous well known JC who appeared to them, that's why they didn't recognize him.
A person in different form from the old JC, who was not recognized by the people he interacted with for years, only days before, doesn't that sounds like an impostor who is pretending to be the resurrected JC?
That also explains why some of the disciples doubted when the "resurrected JC" appeared to them: "When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted." Matt 28:17.
Can you imagine that the authentic JC appears to you and you still doubt?
Apparently he was not so authentic.
If the disciples, who saw the "resurrected JC" with their own eyes, still doubted, why then do the Christians 2000 years later, who have nothing to go by but stories, don't doubt?
Edited by Eliyahu, : No reason given.

  
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