Biblical contradictions.

We can play this game of semantics. Though I will not post them, I will give links as I find it odd how the skeptic will quote the alleged contredictions but they seem to ignore their answers.

• ( http://www.pblcoc.org/biblcont.htm ) - This is a good one.
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• http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~werdna/contradictions/contradictions1.html#20
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• http://www.gospelcom.net/apologeticsindex/contradictions.zip
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• http://debate.org.uk/topics/apolog/contrads.htm
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• http://www.tektonics.org/JPH_AALOBC.html
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• http://www.rae.org/bibref.html
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• Plenty more - http://www.altavista.com/sites/search/web?q=Alleged+AND+contradiction+ANd+bible&kl=XX
  

--Sometimes people have taken verses out of context to support that misunderstanding. Often they simply did not exercise the thought necessary to distinguish between a real contradiction and a resolvable difference.[Edited to turn on the dead links. --Percy]------------------

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[This message has been edited by Percipient, 03-17-2002]

"None of the links you provided refutes in any credible way the contradictions in the link that i provided at the begining of this thread...at most,they attempt to blur the issue. "
--I can say the same thing to yourself, though it means nothing untill you can show why. So, why is it 'an attempt to blur the issue'?------------------

"My question is this: If Adam & Eve and their children were the only people on earth at the time, who was this woman that Cain took for a wife?"
--His sister (Ahhh!)."Who was Nod for that matter?"
--Who? Do you mean Where? or What? Where - in the east, What - A named territory of land."Were there other people on this planet before Adam and Eve?"
--No."Has something been omitted? Was 'Gods Word' edited by men? If so, by whom?"
--No"And what are the implications on the validity of the Bible as the infallible word of God if it has been edited by men?"
--See above.------------------

"Ah the joys of banging your younger sister! I just love the morals espoused in the *literal* intepretation of the bible."
--Its a cultural belief and way of life, maybe a little more professionalism in your post bretheweb? Before Moses set the law down against incest, there was no problem within its practice. I guess this is immoral but homosexuality is completely fine..."Why was it named Nod?"
--Why did God make the sky blue? Why not Green? Its a bit of a circulatory question. Though you may find the definitions of the word 'nod' interesting: http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=nod-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
nod Pronunciation Key (nd)
v. nodded, nodding, nods
v. intr.
To lower and raise the head quickly, as in agreement or acknowledgment.
To let the head fall forward when sleepy.
To be careless or momentarily inattentive as if sleepy; lapse: Even Homer nods.
To sway, move up and down, or droop, as flowers in the wind.v. tr.
To lower and raise (the head) quickly in agreement or acknowledgment.
To express by lowering and raising the head: nod one's agreement.
To summon, guide, or send by nodding the head: She nodded us into the room.n.
A forward or up-and-down movement of the head, usually expressive of drowsiness or agreement: a nod of affirmation.
An indication of approval or assent: The contestant got the nod from the judges.Phrasal Verbs:
nod off
To doze momentarily: nodded off during the lecture.
nod out Slang
To fall asleep, especially as a result of taking a drug.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------"Then why was it named Nod?
Was Eden East taken?"
--See above."Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown."
--Yes, and?"Then what are these?
http://www.earlychristianwritings.com
"Gods word" has been carefully edited since they created."
--A little more specific than providing a link please? Possibly a quote (If you will, try not to be willingly attempting to discourage, such attempts are usual happenings and easily detectable at times)"And yet the air above my head is still quite empty."
--And your implying?"ps... please only respond with short, coherent sentences, thanks."
--I posted what seemed to be needed and relevant, besides my providing the definitions quote, the post seems suitable.

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[This message has been edited by TrueCreation, 04-02-2002]

"a) His Sister??? OK. Where is the chapter & verse explaining this?"
--Not listed, just like the color of Jesus' hair."I ask again . . . .Has something been omitted?"
--Yes, everything irrelevant."Who performed this editing?"
--Nothing was edited, this is the way it was written."b)In my limited knowledge of ancient history, it seems to me that most lands in biblical times were named for kings or for the peoples populating them, so where did these 'Nodites' come from?"
--There was no dynasty, no king, no ruler, nor leader. Just Adam, Eve, and their kids. This was an event preceeding the Flood, greatly altering land topography."if they were the children of Adam & Eve, why is there no mention of their existence or lineage anywhere else in the Bible?"
--Because, it is history, and such as the flood and even the creation story, there are many parallels within other creation stories, which others in these forums would argue that these other creation stories are the origin of the biblical one while I see it on the contrary. Such stories would have been greatly altered to their taste and liking of the story-teller if not passed as a holy document, in which little if not anything would be altered.". . . .Has something been omitted?"
--Yes, everything irrelevant."By Whom?
I'd repeat my last question from my previous post, but I think you get the idea . . . ."
--I would repeat mine as well, though I believe we do.------------------

"Are you saying that Mosaic law defines what is right and wrong as opposed to just what is legal and illegal?"
--Within the confines of the belief system, yes this is a right and wrong prospect, and seemingly analogous is a legal and illeagle activity."On a more practical note, the taboo against close family incest is the most widely practised of all taboos;"
--Glad to hear it."with good reason, as the offspring are often calamitously disabled."
--Gosh, whoever made the law, was apparently indicative of this, as if this practice continued, the human race would have been in a great amount of trouble."Perhaps you feel that human genetics changed on the day Moses came down from the mountain - or at least on the day the law was formulated?"
--See above, in all technicallity it played a major role, if the law were not formulated, there would have been an emense increase in speciatory degeneration in functionality and corruption of the human genome.------------------

"No?? Then why is there something called the King James VERSION? Why are there so many different Bibles, all translated differently with word choices lending different meanings to the passages?"
--Oh, you mean translations? Well if this is what your question pertains to, than in that light, sure abundant editing, though the same meaning. I could say, "Hola, como estas" in Espanol, though if I 'edit' it to read in English, "Hello, how are you", there is still the same meaning as the former.------------------

"Um, cloning has been happening naturally for a very long time.Have you ever heard of identical twins?In addition, plants are propogated by cloning all the time. I have a couple of cloned ferns growing in my living room right now, as a matter of fact."
--Even though I do not know exactly what techristians point was, your form of cloning is a slightly different process than he asserted, so neither do I see your point as well.------------------

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The color of his hair has no significance. While Cain's wife is an important piece of information that is mysteriously missing, funny thing about mythology!"
--Whether it is significant or relevent to the story, is your opinion, keep in mind this was written many thousand years ago, it is logical to say they may have seen more significance in a different veriety of specifics."LOL. Cain's wife is an important part of the story if the author wants it to appear factual."
--See above. you may think it is important, but why is it? Because you wan't to pin down the bible, technically, the bible could not be big enough for how many specifics you may want to meet your satisfaction."How come there are so many translations? Each translation acting as a small edit for the book that hit's the shelves."
--See my previous post."Don't forget that many of Adam and Eves kids could have been left out because they were 'irrelevant'. After all they seem to have forgotten certain details about Cain’s wife."
--Yes, it was irrelevent, otherwise they would have mentioned more of her, even assuming that he Got cains wife in another human creation in the land of nod, they still thought it irrelevent to give any more information."I would agree that it is history. It is history written in myths, exaggerated stories. Stories that were written to explain things that were not understood at the time. I.E. Noah’s Ark - was most likely a flood that took place while a local farmer collected his animals on his boat. The flood devastated the town he lived in and all the people. Noah then passed the story along to his kids who passed it on to their kids etc. Finally the story finds a nice little place in the bible, of course by this time the flood story covers the entire earth devastating absolutely everything, and Noah saved the day with loading two of every animal on his boat."
--Personal Opinions are always fine. Also, they must have been really smart, or very lucky to describe the mechenisms of the Flood."A lot has been omitted, fictional books don't need to include all the details, it leaves a lot more for the imagination."
--See above.------------------

"You know full well that the way something is translated can easily change it's meaning, TC. Since Hebrew has no vowels, and the same word can have many different meanings depending upon context, don't you think that, if they wanted to, different translators could change the meanings of passages? Either on purpose or by accident?"
--Yes, it would have been written in context of course. And possibly yes, though extreamly rare would errors be made, but then there is also the obsticle of having this error leaching into a stable agreement in post publications to come. Also, copies were copied directly from the previous text which was as stated earlier, taken into extreamly high consideration on word for word and letter for letter accuracy."What about the many entire chapters which were removed, early on in the Bible's history?"
--I have not heard of chapters themselves being removed, though books in their whole, yes.--dani17 has pointed out a relevent verse, it shows how there may be no direct evidence of God, though there is always indirect evidence, which is also used for application for earth history.------------------

"Uh, you still haven't explained to me why there are so many different VERSIONS of the Bible, which each have somewhat different flavors and slants."
--One would simply because of change of syntax usage over time. Or because there are different words for the same thing."Who cares if each 'copy' of the KJV of the Bible is pefectly-done?"
--Seemed perfectly relevent to me."Why was it ever changed AT ALL to be different from any other Bible?"
--Well it really isn't unless you want to get into extream technics, such as 'to desire' has meanings such as:

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desire Pronunciation Key (d-zr)
tr.v. desired, desiring, desires
To wish or long for; want.
To express a wish for; request.

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n.
A wish or longing.
A request or petition.
The object of longing: My greatest desire is to go back home.
Sexual appetite; passion.

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And to Want has meanings such as:

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want Pronunciation Key (wnt, wnt)
v. wanted, wanting, wants
v. tr.

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To desire greatly; wish for: They want to leave. She wants a glass of water. See Synonyms at desire.
To desire (someone to do something): I want you to clean your room.

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To request the presence or assistance of: You are wanted by your office.
To seek with intent to capture: The fugitive is wanted by the police.
To have an inclination toward; like: Say what you want, but be tactful.
Informal. To be obliged (to do something): You want to be careful on the ice.
To be without; lack. See Synonyms at lack.
To be in need of; require: ‘Your hair wants cutting,’ said the Hatter (Lewis Carroll).

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v. intr.
To have need: wants for nothing.
To be destitute or needy.
To be disposed; wish: Call me daily if you want.

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n.
The condition or quality of lacking something usual or necessary: stayed home for want of anything better to do.
Pressing need; destitution: lives in want.
Something desired: a person of few wants and needs.
A defect of character; a fault.

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--But of course any literate person could observe (another synonym of 'to see') that they are synonymous. Anyone can play semantics with various biblical translations, but the whole reason it was written is still there in every verse."OK, then what about the whole books which were removed? "
--Yes what about them? (I stated that I 'have not heard of chapters themselves being removed')"OK, please tell us what this evidence for God is."
--Observation of opinionated design (opinionated), anthropical principle. I had a good one thought up today, possibly It will come to me.------------------