AntiGod education should not be compulsary (even for non wealthy)

nevertheless it is a set of ideas that ammount to in many peoples opinion, also backed by science, a godless religion which is not to be forced. Study free will all you want, don't try to force feed your one sided self declared wonderments on kids when it ammounts to an assault on faith. Why, would some want to force that on us too? So we should prohibit prayer, and the bible, and teaching our kids according to Godly science. I can see why you'd be uptight here.

Do you think forcing people to bow down and worship a rock would be harmful? Or having to deny their faith at the door of the school? It wouldn't kill them, but, like godless science, and education that is godless, it's not something a parent of a christian child would desire to be forced to do.

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Science is not a religion.Religion is revelatory. Knowledge in religion stems from God through chosen prophets. Prophets don't choose themselves - there's no training or schooling in the world that can make God dictate the next book of the Bible to you.Science is participatory. Anybody can do it. All it takes is some study in order to catch up to everybody else, and you're on your way. If you don't like the conclusions of scientists it's entirely possible to analyze the data and come up with your own.If I don't agree with the statements of a prophet, what recourse do I have? And how do I tell the difference between a "prophet" and a "liar"? These are not problems science has.What rituals are performed in science? What observances are held? What churches exist for Science? These are common - many would say required - features of religion. Science has none of these.You can say that science is a religion all you like, but saying it doesn't make it true. Science is religion-neutral. There's no such thing. That is, if by "Godly science" you mean "rejecting any and all data that conflicts with the accounts in the Bible." That would not be science. That would be self-deception.And why should we teach only Godly science? What about Muslim science? Or Vedic science? Or Buddist science? Why are you so Christian-centric? America is a society of religious plurality. Your push to have God - and only God - in the classroom is simply un-American.

I don't think He'd dream of trampling anyone who didn't activly try to fight Him. For the kids, and Christians it's the Calvary coming to save us. At least He's not just going to bomb a village, or town, or restarant, and not care who's in there!

I'd vote to let'm learn what they like, but if you can't respect the majority as being Christian, then just don't make it mandatory!

I didn't say "all".

fair enough. granted I am guilty. So do I have to see kids shot up with ritilin, so they can be numbed into listening to that godless education now as a result of spelling errors?

show me in Darwinism where God is? Can you point out how evolution embraces God in some way, and His written account of Orgins? Perhaps I never looked into it close enough.

Thanks for the story. Any point you'd like a comment on?

Well hell, I don't think Huckleberry Finn "embraces" the Genesis account, except as a metaphor or myth at some point, but I don't think that makes it "anti-God", do you?Isn't it possible to be religion-neutral to you?

Show me where in my TV remote instruction manual God is. Is it anti God?Darwin, in fact, in "The Origin of Species"

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He who believes that each equine species was independently created, will, I presume, assert that each species has been created with a tendency to vary, both under nature and under domestication, in this particular manner, so as often to become striped like the other species of the genus; and that each has been created with a strong tendency, when crossed with species inhabiting distant quarters of the world, to produce hybrids resembling in their stripes, not their own parents, but other species of the genus. To admit this view is, as it seems to me, to reject a real for an unreal, or at least for an unknown cause. It makes the works of God a mere mockery and deception; I would almost as soon believe with the old and ignorant cosmogonists, that fossil shells had never lived, but had been created in stone so as to mock the shells now living on the sea-shore.

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Which is both your mention of God and is explicit in saying that the living things are works of God and warns about the kind of thing you are doing to Christianity.It is after all a scientific work. You would not find such references today. This is not because they are anti God (remember that about 40% of scientists are believers) but because like my TV remote manual it is not relevant.I am very sure you never looked at it close enough. It is a surprisingly good read. It is however more than a century out of date now and there are much better explanations of current theory.[This message has been edited by NosyNed, 02-07-2004]

why do you think Adam had some reading lined up, when he was done meeting Eve? If you know of a more ancient writing go ahead, share it. At least you come out and have a clear position. If I was raised in a public school, I would probably share your view. (Regarding drugs, etc,) Things are in a state of decay that is I think a result of having no God in education. In History, in biology, in science, in everything, not to mention music! When you toss out God, and truth, and beauty, and prayer, you destroy the foundation. If there is no God, no right or wrong, why not bring a gun to school? Who is to say it is wrong? Why not take drugs (in addition to the ones the make you take)? Why not marry a monkey? Or why not be a cannibal? ( Or act like Sodom & Gommorah?) Unless you have a God, who is to say you are more right than I? Or your idea is true? Everything is equal, all lifestyles, murdering young unborn children, or anything. It's the survival of the fittest! May the best man win! see what I'm getting at? Throw out the rule giver, and there goes the rules.

Funny, then, that atheists (while accounting for about 5-10% of Americans) constitute less than 1% of the prison population, and that it's Christians who lead the country in getting divorces...We're getting off-topic.

I don't have to pay taxes to Mark Twain. And a good novel is a little different than a forced labotomy. Or a forced education neutered of the Savior.