Lying For Jesus Award

I reopened this thread after further consideration of what it is/was you were trying to say. If you mean to approach the topic in a humorous way, such as Mr. Blackwells worst dressed list,it would be better to have a format set up such as this:Quotation The name of the award winner could be attached.
Comment This is where I stress politeness. For example, if you nominated a fictitious member such as Fundie-mental for the Lying For Jesus Award you would have to show the reason that the lie was a lie, you would have to keep the whole thing humorous yet respectful...both of Fundie-mental and of Jesus...and you would have to provide a counter-example of how Jesus would behave differently.Perhaps the thread could be re-titled. My suggestions off the top of my head at the moment would be Faux pas Of The Month. I would prefer to be respectful of Mr. Jesus since He is listening! I did not understand the thread at first and thought that you were merely angry at another member for Lying and then laying low. I thought that you were mad at them, but I am beginning to understand that you use humor to redirect your frustrations! My apologies, Oh Taz of Tazmania! Edited by Phat, : clarificationEdited by Phat, : No reason given.

We believe that we are utterly dependent...yet we do not need to inform others that they too are dependent. Persuasion is achieved by actions rather than words. A Faux Pas is literally a false step. Have you ever made a false step while carrying the football for J.C. ? If so, your words would be immortalized given a mention in the Thread.I laugh as I type this, for AdminPhats blow-up would itself qualify as a Lie for Jesus. (Jesus tapped me on the shoulder and had me repent, however. Actually I was mad at the fact that someones faith was being openly challenged. Perhaps there is a way that we could have a Faux Pas thread as long as we didn't use words like idiotic or blatant misrepresentation. We would have to keep such a thread humorous.

Declaring that Jesus is Dead is a perfect example of a Faux Pas. When approaching a topic titled "Lying For Jesus" it is probably better to presuppose that Jesus is alive for the purposes of discussion. If you personally do not believe that He is alive, you would be better off not responding to a thread such as this.I am assuming, of course, that Taz believes that there is a Jesus and that telling the truth for Him would be the counter-example of lying for Him.

What the heck is a Christian atheist?

Since when do other christians represent me?

Perhaps our sensitivity to this "attack" on Christians and our need to "defend" Christians is unwarrented. Does it not say somewhere that you are blessed when attacked?

If I understand you correctly, all who call themselves Christian become representatives of Christ. (Or in other terms, anointed of God)Having been so charged, it is our collective responsibility to make sure that our image is not tarnished or tainted in any way. We are far from perfect, but we are to acknowledge this..(As King David did, reluctantly when he got caught) expose our imperfections to other Christians, turn away from our sins, bad behaviors, and faulty ideologies and resolve to behave better tomorrow, right?One question that comes to my mind is how exclusive are Christians? IF there is a God, everyone on the planet will be calling themselves anointed one day. (Lets not discuss Hell)Its better to correct people now rather than see them tarnished and hardened later.

What exactly is this Cult of Ignorance?

Is it the ones who believe in a literal Virgin Birth?

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Is it the ones who believe that not all are saved?

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Is it not true that condemning the beliefs of others makes you also guilty? Do you actually think you behave better than they do in every area of your life?

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I realize that you are condemning behaviors and not necessarily beliefs, per se. But I wonder about this Cult Of Ignorance assertion. You seem to have a disdain for the Pentecostals.

Do you have no qualms about generalizing? I mean, don't you have any Pentacostal friends? Or Charismatic friends? or..or..Evangelical friends? And IF not, was it your fault for not reaching out and attempting to reason with them? Or is it their fault for not accepting you as a fellow Christian and seeking to understand you?

First of all, not all Christians behave or believe the same way. Many Christians believe that Jesus (the character of God in human form) is an answer inasmuch as it allows humans and God to relate on the same level. The issue, however, is not whether or not Jesus is the answer so much as the issue is "what do we do with this answer?Your point could well be extrapolated into the statement "Why do believers (in God) pretend that this belief solves all the questions?"As a believer, my answer would be that God never intended to give us all the answers...only urging us to believe that there is a source that does have all the answers to our own human condition. (We still are expected to think, relate, and ban hate.)

So basically the issue is whether or not Christians have a responsibility to organize a social voice and undertake actions to help society as a group or whether we are only responsible for doing the best we can individually and working out our own salvation through joyful works and through individual effort...am I right?

Actually the Eastern Orthodox are equally as original as the Roman Catholics. Christianity started out in five cities. The Roman one was only the most influential in terms of money and power...not in terms of anything else.

Reminds me of this cartoon I use occasionally...