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Author Topic:   Ever lasting life with or without God.
crashfrog
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Message 14 of 48 (39759)
05-11-2003 6:58 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by mike the wiz
05-11-2003 6:54 PM


Re: Thanks for the reminder!
what a pathetic attempt to rid a genuine testimony of a man.
What man? What testimony? If you want us to take claim like this seriously you're going to have to provide a better, more substantial claim than "I heard of a guy, bullets bounced off of him."
Sorry if we seem dismissive but you're asking us to accept a highly unlikely story based on evidence that's less than hearsay, and could just be made up. Not that I'm accusing you of making it up - I'm sure you heard it somewhere - but there's no difference as yet between your story and one I could invent right now:
"I heard of a guy who was so in tune with his chi that bullets bounced off of him."

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crashfrog
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Message 19 of 48 (39764)
05-11-2003 7:32 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by mike the wiz
05-11-2003 7:18 PM


Re: Thanks for the reminder!
ok one testimony may look silly but when you hear of dozens you start asking 'why would these people who do not benefit in any way from lying tell us these things.'
Because there is a benefit in lying about these things. If one was sufficiently motivated to evangelize their god, their position would be aided considerably by "miraculous" accounts of the power of their god.
The thing about documentation is that you have to present it. It's insufficient to say "there's documentation."
What body part did he recieve? Was it really missing? Or was it present but non-functional?

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crashfrog
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Message 28 of 48 (39858)
05-12-2003 9:56 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by mike the wiz
05-12-2003 8:44 PM


if you are nosyned explain to me why there are no apemen alive today but apes are and humans are?
Maybe because there's no such thing as "apemen"? never mind that evolution doesn't say we evolved from apemen, but rather that apes and man share a common ancestor. You're arguing against a straw man.
Let me ask you this: could there exist any animal that you would call not an ape or man but an "apeman"? Isn't it disingenuous of you to ask for evidence of "apemen" that we know you'll never accept?
New "kinds" don't arise not because something prevents it, but because human language doesn't allow for the naming of new "kinds" of animals. There could never be any new animal that we couldn't crowd into our already pre-existing words for animals.
What we do find are skulls in a smooth transition to more "ape-like" forms of human. That's all evolution says there should be, anyway.

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crashfrog
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Message 30 of 48 (39865)
05-12-2003 10:18 PM
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05-12-2003 10:03 PM


why do the scientists show us the diagram of these 'inbetween creatures' you know the evolution of man pic , like they have found all of these animals when they havent.
They do have evidence of those humanoids. They're human like you and I, only less advanced, crainially. So, they have found these "creatures" - transitional forms, they're called. I'm not sure what your point is, here.
why did we evolve from chimps or apes which is what the media is always suggesting ,when apes have survived and so did not need to evolve ?
The media has it wrong, which is not unusual when it comes to science. Media is driven by writing engaging copy. That tends to conflict with strict scientific accuracy.
We didn't evolve from modern apes. Apes and man share a common ancestor. Why is that hard for you to understand? Apes have evolved as much in thousands of years as humans have. Ancient apes were less advanced than modern apes, just as ancient humans were less advanced than modern ones.

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crashfrog
Member (Idle past 1498 days)
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From: Silver Spring, MD
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Message 44 of 48 (40020)
05-13-2003 9:45 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by mike the wiz
05-13-2003 8:19 PM


Re: Creationists know less about archaeology than they do about science
like the evolution of man which is a theory!
So? So is gravity and germ theory of disease. Maybe you don't know what "theory" means.
Anyway it's still better than creationism, which is a lie.
trying to say your right and i'm wrong however is boring.
It is. That's why we like to have discussions where people support their positions with logic and/or evidence.

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