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mike the wiz Member Posts: 4755 From: u.k Joined: |
Someday through genetics, biology and technology man will throw off the shadow of impending death.
This is doubtful , even if we could prolong life , which is unlikely, we would succomb to injury or disease.Its Jesus Christ who can give you eternal life.all you have to do is believe in him and confess your sins, however small you think they are , and you WILL have life everlasting , and no one can take you from his hand,And all that for asking , not a bad deal is it?
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mike the wiz Member Posts: 4755 From: u.k Joined: |
You didn't really think that the god that truly exists is the Christian one, did you?
Yes , in fact , i know he does
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mike the wiz Member Posts: 4755 From: u.k Joined: |
i have faith , and God helps me and answers me an guides me , that is how i know he exists , and also i have heard many many testimonies of Jesus healing cancer , diseases,blind people e.t.c
did you ever see the evangelist who was so invaded by cancer he had tumors all over his body ,there was medically no chance of survival, huge efforts of prayer were made ,and he got healed, i've never seen anything like it in my life . even his doctors who were non believers believed it was a miracle.it shown him before and after , it WAS a miracle.Ive heard and seen many many more stories like this.is this not proof?
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mike the wiz Member Posts: 4755 From: u.k Joined: |
So how do these people get healed, is it psychosomatic and if it is then isn't it perfectly possible that the Christian healings are psychosomatic also?
how about a man who bound a dog in Jesus' name from tearing another man to pieces.how about the fbi agent who went to expose a preacher by saying 'heal me then' i have a bleeding condition and need new body parts and he recieved them.are you saying his new parts grew back of there own accord? or was this in his mind?what about the woman who had a super long tongue since birth , and it shrunk as people watched in Jesus name. how about the man in the vietnam war who was running and heard a voice say 'turn left' even though no one was there , and saved his life because there was a cliff edge straight on, indeed Jesus even took him to Jerusalem and said to him 'now do you believe?.what about the man who died and wasn't christian and asked every single name from his religion to save him and then he thought 'i remember the name Jesus '(as he remembered falling to hell)and Jesus saved him because he called his name ,in fact this man went on to become a evangelist and escaped death for preaching in his homeland because weapons bounced off him because he called on the holy spirit.need i go on
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mike the wiz Member Posts: 4755 From: u.k Joined: |
false gods , do not heal their followers in my opinion because they are made up. the true God does heal ,as promised as foretold as requested. i have never heard a good enough case for a false god healing.however i could write a list as long as my arm for the people Jesus has healed!!!
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mike the wiz Member Posts: 4755 From: u.k Joined: |
'I think the Holy Spirit he called on came in a whisky bottle'
what a pathetic attempt to rid a genuine testimony of a man.the same lame sarcasm come from all non believers in my experience.
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mike the wiz Member Posts: 4755 From: u.k Joined: |
Who was this guy and has it been confirmed by an independant body of scientists that he is 'bulletproof'?
i never said he was bullet proof ,trying to make it silly wont change anything, what the programme i watched was called 'in depth' he was from India , he is also now a priest in the uk.there were witnesses however what would be proof to a none believer ? i noticed you havent tried to attack me when i say i have experienced Jesus myself? you see if you have true faith God grants you all the proof you need in your own mind , and by the way i have answered your question, here it is again , TO MY MIND I HAVE NOT HEARD OR HAVE SEEN OF ANYONE WHO WAS HEALED BY A FALSE gOD.
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mike the wiz Member Posts: 4755 From: u.k Joined: |
Sorry if we seem dismissive but you're asking us to accept a highly unlikely story based on evidence that's less than hearsay, and could just be made up. Not that I'm accusing you of making it up - I'm sure you heard it somewhere - but there's no difference as yet between your story and one I could invent right now:
ok how about the fbi man who said it was documented as a miracle that he recieved a new body part. ok one testimony may look silly but when you hear of dozens you start asking 'why would these people who do not benefit in any way from lying tell us these things.'
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mike the wiz Member Posts: 4755 From: u.k Joined: |
What body part did he recieve? Was it really missing? Or was it present but non-functional?
to be honest i just cant remember what part it was thats why i keep calling it a part.but i know he was bleading to death ,i thinkit might of been a lung,but whatever it was the doctors had to remove it.what was fascinating about this case is that he was extremely angry with the preacher and went to this place to expose him , in fact he didn't believe in God at all,so there was no motive , as for documented proof i just cant provide it to you, i guess it comes down to belief again. by the way i havent asked anyone to believe in the 'proof' i have talked about , i only mentioned things which i consider proof in my own mind.
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mike the wiz Member Posts: 4755 From: u.k Joined: |
tbn europe is a channel which broadcasts a programme called 'creation in the 21st century' anything they claim on this programme is usually scientifically based.similar channels are also available however since i live in the uk you might not of heard of them!
a scientist seeks how a philosopher thinks why!
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mike the wiz Member Posts: 4755 From: u.k Joined: |
Why would I want to attack you? You have your beliefs and I have mine,
fair enough ,ok you might have evidence however healing is not the only reasons i believe,personally i'm not a hunter gatherer ,lol, of scientific proof , and you might have known some good healing cases , but its the personal side that convinces me really , which is proof to me , but ofcourse it wouldn't be to youthis i'm afraid is were faith is needed though................
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mike the wiz Member Posts: 4755 From: u.k Joined: |
You see the funny thing is, and I am not pointing the finger at you, but Bible believers are wasting their time looking for secular evidence to support their faith.
not only is the bible 100% archealogically backed,and by the way there is scientific evidence for the flood:they have been looking in the black sea recently and it shown buildings made by people and other signs of life from the past and it was on camera so in this case i had to believe what i was seeing.evidence of the flood. 'and they find that science disproves it beyond all doubt, they then play the faith card!' are you saying science has disproved the bible? where have you been , i suggest you go to Sucuri WebSite Firewall - Access Denied where all questions are answered in the 'evidence ' sectioni'm sure you like to believe God has been disproved and evolution prooved but that just is not the case.in fact the part about the evolution of man i find quite amusing , no sir i dont need to play the faith card !!!
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mike the wiz Member Posts: 4755 From: u.k Joined: |
are you an evolutionists .
if you are nosyned explain to me why there are no apemen alive today but apes are and humans are? also why has there been ape skulls found and human skulls found but no apemen skulls? and as for the flood just not happening , oh dear is that your argument?
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mike the wiz Member Posts: 4755 From: u.k Joined: |
What we do find are skulls in a smooth transition to more "ape-like" forms of human. That's all evolution says there should be, anyway.
why do the scientists show us the diagram of these 'inbetween creatures' you know the evolution of man pic , like they have found all of these animals when they havent.and why did we evolve from chimps or apes which is what the media is always suggesting ,when apes have survived and so did not need to evolve ?
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mike the wiz Member Posts: 4755 From: u.k Joined: |
'You had to play the faith card in relation to the healings discussion, and I can tell you for a fact that you have to play it again in relation to archaeology.'
the falling of the walls of jericho - fact (archeoligists on discovery channel) evidence that the cities of sodom and gomorah where destroyed by fire - fact. ( archeoligists) the creation and living evidence of humans , and there incredible design - fact (common sense) 'Can you provide any evidence for Israelites in Egypt before the 9th century BC' recently a jewish settlement was foud and in egyptian writings (discovery channel) it was an archeologist on t.v who actually said this , you tell him your right and he's wrong! 'Does the evidence suggest a local flood or a worldwide one?' a local one , you win on this point! 'Science has disproven that people can live to the age of 969 years.' but in a pre flood and better earth than it is now , they havent proved it.(part of creationism - well known) i've answered honestly and to the best of my knowledge and have not mentioned faith.
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