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Message 239 of 300 (346104)
09-02-2006 5:59 PM
Reply to: Message 236 by kuresu
09-02-2006 5:37 PM


a priori knowledge
kuresu writes:
aposteriori cannot come before apriori knowledge.
I don't see why not.
Keep in mind that these are terms of art within philosophy, and a priori does not mean innate.
As normally used, mathematical knowledge is considered to be a priori. However, people acquire quite a bit of a posteriori knowledge before they learn much mathematics.

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Message 248 of 300 (346123)
09-02-2006 8:19 PM
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09-02-2006 6:29 PM


Re: a priori knowledge
Do you know why 2 + 2 = 4 before you have learned the concept of adding?
To say it is a priori is to say that it can be found deductively, without having to depend on empirical evidence. It doesn't have to do with the time order of learning. I recommend the article by C.I. Lewis on a priori knowledge
knowledge is not about learning facts. facts don't really tell much.
knowlegde is learning the why, the how.
Personally, I agree. But that's not how the term is used in the philosophical literature, nor in the expression "a priori knowledge."
I realize my definition of knowledge is a little different, ...
I'm not objecting to your idea as to what knowledge is. I am pointing out that you improperly criticized -messenjah of one, given that what he wrote was consistent with the usage within philosophy.
..., but I think it still holds true if you use the standard. you cannot know an after-hand fact before you know the fact (knowledge), ...
However a priori has nothing to do with when you acquired those facts. If, right now, I invent some new facts out of my head, then they are a priori because they don't depend on empirical data.
We are wandering a bit off topic. Let's not further pursue this in the current thread.

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