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Author Topic:   Insect diversity falsifies the worldwide flood.
CK
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Message 32 of 148 (338570)
08-08-2006 3:00 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by randman
08-08-2006 2:54 PM


Re: absurdity of the critic's argument
Well there are two elements to this:
1) if a creationist wants to claim - "God made it happy and his magic made the story true" - well that's not subject to falsification because it relies on a magical figure beyond science.
2) If a creationist wants to claim - "The flood happened and this is supported by science" - well that version is open to scientific enquiry (well I say "open", it's nonsense in terms of being based upon any form of reality).
If you want to claim (1) - great, but it's nothing to do with science (which is what we dicuss in the science forums)
If you want to claim (2) - well, hard shit, you are wrong.

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CK
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Message 34 of 148 (338578)
08-08-2006 3:10 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by randman
08-08-2006 3:05 PM


Re: absurdity of the critic's argument
Well yes and no - but as soon as God creates special conditions or you introduce "god dunn it", then what do you need science for?
You just answer "god dunn it" for all the questions - the flood works that way.

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Message 36 of 148 (338584)
08-08-2006 3:21 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by randman
08-08-2006 3:12 PM


Re: absurdity of the critic's argument
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So your argument is that if God does do something, science must steadfastly insist He didn't and offer up other explanations even if they are not true?
No my argument is that if you want to insist that God did something, then scientists are going to shrug their shoulders and go "great - good for you". Science is not going to "insist" anything about what he did or did not because science cannot test for God, he is beyond science.
All of the scientific evidence (in multiple multiple disciplines which when taken together represents a totality that renders the position stupid) indicates that a) the earth is not 5000 years old and b) that the flood did not happen.
Why am I going to be looking for or be concerned with intervention of a christian god concept when the physical evidence shows me that the flood never happened?

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